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[–] [email protected] 99 points 8 months ago (1 children)

of course they are. it's why I always encourage people not to buy them. they're awful for the environment, they're wasteful and they are lower quality than you'd get with most standard rechargeable e-cigarette kits.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 8 months ago (35 children)

I don't vape, but I can't imagine they're cheaper than re-usable vaping devices in the long run either.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 8 months ago

oh my goodness yes. I couldn't imagine buying a disposable every time I ran out.

that would possibly be just as expensive as smoking regular cigarettes.

I just use a little pod system that has replaceable coil heads. it was maybe 60 total because I bought two batteries. but I've not needed a replacement battery for my personal vape yet. Just have been replacing (or reusing) my coil heads.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 8 months ago (6 children)

A few of us electronics hobbyists have been collecting them (when found discarded on the street) to harvest the battery for re-use in other projects.

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Yes they're nasty, but I pick them up with a dog poo bag and clean them before cracking them open to get the battery.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I was just thinking about this the other day. Any ideas for projects to use them with?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Turn them into a power bank, among other things.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

I guess that's the silver lining, free batteries for anyone willing to deal with a dirty object.

They're also a prime starting supply for lithium battery recycling plants so they can get things figured out before they have to deal with car packs at volume.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 8 months ago (6 children)

That reminds me of this monstrosity https://www.walmart.com/ip/Neutrogena-Light-Therapy-Acne-Treatment-Face-Mask-1-ct/168984043

You have to buy new "activators" every 30 uses as a way of increasing profits... You know rather than just letting users replace the batteries.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This seems easy to hack. Just dig into it and hook it up to a wall wort with the applicable resistor, then sell the monstrosity on eBay for 2x the cost.

[–] sarmale 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I can imagine the company suing

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I can imagine them fucking off.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I can imagine all of you naked.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Oh wow it's as of e-cigs is just like cigarettes, but besides cancer and toxic chemicals, they also found a way to add more waste.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago

I gave up arguing with people like you a long time ago, but I still want you to know actively telling people they're just as bad as cigarettes will keep people on cigarettes, which are 4000x worse than vaping. Your misguided views are extremely harmful.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I used to have roommates who vaped from that exact type of single-use device shown in the thumbnail diagram. They asked me to re-charge it, which I did, disassemble it, connect it to my Li-ion charger and it worked again. Apparently it didn't taste good because it was nearly out of juice, but that was when I found out these were perfectly reusable 3.7V batteries in a disposable product.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Isn't there a difference between rechargable and single-use-batteries? I was always under the Impression you should under no circumstances try to recharge single use batteries or they would explode?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)

These are rechargeable lithium ion batteries. The same standard 18650 that has powered laptops, EVs, and power banks.

They're packaged inside a single use product, but the battery is rechargeable.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Many products actually have charging ports now. All they need to do is allow users to change out the flavor wick and we will come full circle.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Not an 18650, that’s way too big (18x65mm). Smaller than 14500 (AA) for sure

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

You'd need quite a number of alkaline batteries to get the necessary watts to drive a vape. Lithium cells aren't just rechargable they are also good at releasing lots of energy in a short amount of time.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Meanwhile, I’m forced to use shitty paper straws because plastic straws are banned. And yet THIS SHIT is somehow legal??

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Popularity among 18 year olds of > 50%. Christ. A significant chunk of those will become long term users.

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[–] therealjcdenton 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I keep telling you all smokers are jokers

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Every aspect of vaping is wasteful and stupid.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (4 children)

There are plenty of people out there using equipment with replaceable and rechargable batteries and owned tanks that they refill with their own liquid

Pretty much the least wasteful version of smoking as far as I can tell

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[–] treadful 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is this what post-scarcity is going to be like?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

When we get desperate enough for scarce resources we’ll start digging in our trash heaps. I’m surprised we haven’t started yet.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Google “landfill mining”. It’s being researched. So far the economics of what could be recovered don’t outweigh the costs, but they might eventually. Current mining mostly concentrates on remediating older unlined fills and moving the waste to a lined fill.

https://gizmodo.com/landfill-mining-metal-recovery-trash-recycling-ewaste-1850151569

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Well yeah. As far as I know, there's no such thing as a single-cycle battery for a low-power application.

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