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[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Nobody thought he could win in 2016 and everybody thought that our system of government was too well designed and had too many guardrails to let Trump do that much harm

The voters learned their lesson, but the Democratic party's establishment isn't nearly as pragmatic

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nobody thought he could win except all the people screaming about how bad it was that Clinton was running on keeping the status quo (when so many were clamoring for change) and how she was too arrogant to campaign in key states. Plenty knew that Clinton was fucking up, but Clinton and her fans were too far up their own asses to realize it and now they say things like "nobody could've known!" and "Clinton was right that Trump is a bad guy!!"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Clinton's fans didn't care. They planned on blaming her critics if their second choice won.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

everybody thought that our system of government was too well designed and had too many guardrails to let Trump do that much harm

It used to. Then bush and Obama spent 16 years executive ordering themselves unprecedented new powers which surprisingly enough didn't just vanish into thin air when their terms were over. And not Biden nor the legislature nor the courts have done squat to dial it back.