this post was submitted on 26 Jan 2024
120 points (100.0% liked)
chapotraphouse
13395 readers
795 users here now
Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.
No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer
Vaush posts go in the_dunk_tank
Dunk posts in general go in the_dunk_tank, not here
Don't post low-hanging fruit here after it gets removed from the_dunk_tank
founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
No it hasn't happened in our lifetimes. This should be massive. It is a constitutional crisis, technically. But none of the parties are engaging in this for those reasons. It is 100 percent pandering and grandstanding, and is only about bullshit electoral agendas. So it probably won't actually be anything, even though it is technically massive lol
Edit: the only important impact could be later on down the line. Like every escalation of cynical Republican pandering to their genuine fascist base. Eventually the hogs won't be happy until they order tge national guard to open fire on feds. Which will be mostly hilarious when it first happens. Itll be another Jan 6 kind of thing where its technically treason, but no one involved understands what they are actually doing or than it is treason or what comes next. They're just in it for the spectacle with no actual politics or understanding of the implications of the thing they're howling for
~~Balkanization~~ Baudrillardization
It is wild to see two completely different realities playing out in the political rhetoric and what passes for our shared objective experiences these days.
I do wonder when someone who truly has ambitions of being a real warlord or autocrat will appear.
When peoole like that are able to do anything it'll be the result of a more material Balkanization and it'll exist in regions where no other law is being enforced.
Politicians today are only in it for their own egos at this point, because none of them have meaningful power to be an autocrat or warlord, because they just don't have that kind of real power. That's why libs Teump derangement is so unserious. Even if everything libs claimed were true about what Trump wants - that he wants to be a dictator and end democracy - it wouldn't matter because even a president doesn't have that kind of real power. They just get to rubber stamp bullshit and have their ego stroked
I think you're right overall but we shouldn't rule out the possibility of one of the sides painting themselves into a corner and then chosing to escalate rather than the alternative. The problem inherent in brinkmanship is that it's very easy for things to spiral out of control.