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[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (3 children)

As much as Biden deserves to lose.... doomer

Fuck, they really do win every culture war in the end.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago (4 children)

If that were true, DeSantis wouldn't have eaten dirt as hard as he did. He ran super hard on culture war "issues" and toned it down towards the end of his campaign as it became clear that nobody actually gives a shit outside of twitter nazis.

Trump is winning polls because life has gotten materially worse for Americans under Biden. It has nothing to do with culture war nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Trump is also legitimately charismatic. If there was a democrat that could banter half as well it'd be a dunk. hell a quarter of what Trump is bringing would do it

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Also, Biden is decaying before our eyes, which doesn’t help.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

you may also consider the feud he had with trump that must have also taken a major hit at meatballs reputation

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Nobody actually gives a shit except twitter Nazis for but for some reason literally every candidate keeps throwing bones to Twitter Nazis for no reason

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Right-wing culture war "issues" come from the top down, they are manufactured, fake problems to distract the people from relentless capitalist exploitation. "The reason you're so angry all the time is not because the rich are destroying everything that makes your life livable, it's because they let men into the lady's room! The world has gone mad!"

Fox News and Republican candidates talk about them because they're cooperatively speaking them into existence, appealing to an audience they themselves create in the process. But at the end of the day, this audience is quite ephemeral because culture war "issues" simply don't have a real basis in reality. Transphobia, bathroom bills, anti-abortion, all of these topics are not actually that popular with the average Republican voter.

The number of freaks who seriously care about culture war nonsense is way smaller than media discourse would have you believe. Right-wingers have to talk about fake solutions to fake problems because every real solution to real problems would involve getting rid of them. They don't talk about Disney transing the youth because it's what their voters care about, they talk about it because if they talked too much about the real problems, they'd risk people figuring out what's actually causing them.

Edit: Republicans aren't winning because Americans hate trans people, Americans hate trans people because Republicans are winning. Whatever culture war issue Fox News is babbling about is completely interchangeable with any other one and their voters will stop caring the second they stop talking about it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

Right-wing culture war "issues" come from the top down, they are manufactured, fake problems to distract the people from relentless capitalist exploitation.

Spot on

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

two reasons that i can see: if they bring it up in small doses it can help, it only really hurts if they make it their whole thing; and also the only young people who want to work with republicans as staffers and election aides and stuff are brainfried twitter nazis, so they have an outsized say in terms of messaging

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

On the other hand "generic unnamed democrat" is winning in all these states.

It's not just the culture war Biden really is just an exceptionally shitty candidate, just like hillary.

A bunch of people begrudgingly voted for him and he has actively done everything he can to piss off large portion of those voters, while acknowledging that fact and saying he doesn't give a fuck and isn't going to change anything.

He barely squeaked by and since has alienated anybody who cares about labor right, environmental protections, not supporting genocide, and is now actively kicking Muslims out of campaign events. All the while nobody can afford groceries or rent and anytime they bring this up a liberal pops up to call them an idiot and explain actually they're doing great thanks to bidenomics.

Any random asshole could beat Biden at this point by not actively antagonizing people they're supposedly relying on to vote for them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If it makes a difference, we lefties never had a stake in it. The two sides of every "culture war" are both ruling class lobbyists and their powerless, simplistic orbiters (your dumbest coworkers). If we ever had a reasonable foothold in terms of cultural impact, things would look very different