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Am I being trolled, is this some weird carnist realism bit? Eat vegetables. Some tofu maybe. Use your intelligence to realize you don’t have to kill sentient life to eat. Your point isn’t great anyway, each bullet to the heart robs the deer of years of life.
It doesn't really. Killing these large animals is an essential function of a natural or even a partially artificial ecosystem. They can't have their full lives. If wolves fail to torture them to death, and humans fail to shoot them, they literally kill most of the rest of the plants and animals in their environment. If humans became allergic to meat next year and only ate vegetables, we would keep shooting deer and use the meat as feed or fertilizer.
Long life is not on the table and never has been. One of the biggest failures of western forest management has actually been to let the deer live too long. So the difference really is the manner of death.
And that's just talking about deer and not the 30-50 wild hogs running through my back yard
That's why we need the BabyKiller Mark 7 fully automatic grenade launcher like our forefathers intended
source? Sounds more like game warden / hobby-hunter bullshit than ecology. Also, we don’t need to shoot deer for fertilizer if we stopped eating meet. If plants or ecosystems are imbalanced, it should be the work of ecologist not hunters
The ecologist would generally prefer to introduce wolves or, if they weren't allowed to, they would shoot the deer. In fact those are the 2 main things they are doing and encouraging in various out of wack, deer overpopulated ecosystems.
Funny, are you an ecologist? First article I found in google scholar concluded hunters should be reduced.
They should be reduced in various areas or replaced in all areas by natural predators. I assure you there are areas with not enough hunting because a) the bears and wolves were exterminated 100 years ago, b) livestock farmers lobby the local and state governments against introducing those predators and c) hunters either don't hunt enough or only try to trophy hunt
I think the people who think hunting is the only options should be reduced in various areas
I mean yeah, natural predators are much more effective
Here's an article.
The abstract:
As this ecologist notes, hunters are essential parts of maintaining healthy, biodiverse ecosystems.
Funny, are you an ecologist? First article I found in google scholar concluded hunters should be reduced.
"hunting is the primary population management tool" and "hunting should be reduced" are not mutually exclusive statements. You're not clever for demanding people have a degree in ecology to give you information.
Love that this person demands everyone else have a phd to argue with them about a subject they clearly understand less than a middle schooler