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A district judge in Wisconsin has sided with an 11-year-old trans girl over her use of the girls’ toilets and temporarily blocked school officials from preventing her access.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

We can have gender neutral bathrooms where we have a shared hand-washing area, and individual stalls. Heck, you can even have cameras pointed towards the sink area if people are so afraid of getting harassed in the bathroom. Gender should not matter when you have individual stalls.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right? I've been using public restrooms for a long time and I don't recall ever seeing anyone's naughty bits.

..and for me the most ridiculous part of this discussion is that bathrooms have never been a secure space. If some creep wanted to go into a bathroom to harass people, there is literally nothing stopping them. It's not like bathrooms have guarded entrances and now people have a sneaky way to get into a bathroom by pretending to be transgender or something insane like that.

It's literally a manufactured issue to get the GOP electorate terrified, as everything they do is designed to do.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I've been using public restrooms for a long time and I don't recall ever seeing anyone's naughty bits.

I see you've never had the misfortune of using the circular trough-style urinal where everyone is facing each other and peeing into the middle. Thankfully, they are not very common.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

From the Horrible Bathroom Hall of Fame, I present the Mathematical Sciences bathroom at the University of Central Florida:

https://imgur.io/gallery/FJvcZ

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What is it with the US and making public toilets as weird as possible? Your freaking walls & doors are bad enough but this is like a piss fountain. I'd expect something like this in maybe a swinger / fetish club or something like that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's not a urinal, it's for washing your hands. I've mostly ever seen them in factories where you have shifts coming on and off the clock at the same time so they need to be able to handle a high volume of workers.

That said, I'm not a big fan of the piss walls you get in the UK and Ireland. They always feel awkward to me, but I guess if you're used to it...

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

LOL when I first saw the pic you posted I thought the sink in the middle was for communal pissing

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This is what happens when you have theoretical scientists in charge of bathrooms.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Oh you know what? I think I did have those in elementary school. That was a while ago though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Lol! Those are meant for washing your hands, not for pissing. Although I guess I can imagine a scenario where some genius thinks one is a urinal and somehow the idea catches on. Still pretty funny though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yes I hate this kind of shit too. It costs less and somehow might be able to pack more pissers, but it's so weird. Maybe unless you're into staring at other people when you're peeing.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The best compromise for neutrality and efficiency is to keep gender neutral stalls but also retain an area with urinals which will be much quicker for large numbers of men to pass through then using stalls, and also saves water.

The other consideration would be that the stalls will need to be sufficiently screened that people in them don't feel overlooked or vulnerable (I'm looking at you USA with your weird gappy stall building!).

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Um I think if we're gonna have urinals, they need to have a divider to completelt separate them from the rest of the bathroom area, just so some conservative women don't freak out about the idea of men urinating outside of a closed stall.

But yea the stalls need to have no gaps in them. I hate people just peeking in, especially when I was in k-12 public school.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a big fan of just getting rid of urinals altogether as a man, I'm choosing stalls every time anyway

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

You son of a bitch

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I went to a mixed bathroom in France and had to walk past bare backsides to get to a stall. I don't want to see one guy's ass let alone a whole row of them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the US at least people don't generally have their asses hanging out when using urinals.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's not really a thing in Europe either. I saw it only once in my life, and that was back in school, from some third or second grader or something.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're supposed to run down the line and slap those butts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

While cheering about your favorite sportsball team.