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Wisconsin judge sides with 11-year-old trans girl over her right to use school toilets
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It really doesn't. It only feels that way if you are incapable of differentiating between a sexual pervert and a trans person.
Society can accommodate gender neutral bathrooms (meaning you don't have this social construct of genital specific genital policed bathroom spaces) alongside gendered bathrooms where people presenting as either gender can go to the bathroom. Where there is no neutral option, the closer aligning gender specific bathroom is better than the genital specific bathroom.
Or you can have it your way with bathrooms where people's genital have to be declared, revealed, matched, or somehow verified to use them. That is the only way to achieve genital specific safe spaces that you're craving. Otherwise our society can go about accepting that people presenting as a gender to use their preferred bathroom regardless of their genital status.
So how do you want verify if someone is trans or not when they're using the bathroom? Keep in mind you've already demonstrated that you're incapable of differentiating between a sexual pervert and a trans person.
The sky is the limit here:
How do you want our society to verify genitalia before providing public bathroom access?
So you can look at a person and tell if they are a sexual pervert? Holy cow, so the fbi know about your amazing talent? That’s a game changer.
What you can pick is a biological male. Every time, without fail. No one needs to look at genitals.
You keep purposely disingenuously saying rubbish like “you’re saying all trans people are perverts”. What I’m saying is that you can’t tell who is a pervert, but you know that if they’re a biological male who is a pervert that you just gave them free and unrestricted access to girls bathrooms by sallowing trans identified people into female space because there’s no way to verify “gender identity” so anyone can simply say they are a girl if they want to access female only spaces.
This isn’t hard to understand, and your attempts to twist it only highlight how weak your argument is.
Sex separated spaces exist for a reason. They existed long before the current “gender identity” thing began.
The entire person is the biological male part lol. It's not just genitalia.
No, that literally has nothing to do with it. The issue with trans people using bathrooms is that they're wanting to use bathrooms that were specifically made for them not to use. They're not "gender identity" based bathrooms, they're sex based since they have been around long before "gender identity" was a thing.
I haven't once said that, so you really need to stop telling lies and being disingenuous. You keep lying and saying that I'm saying trans = pervert when I have said no such thing.
I'm not linking them to trans people at all. What I am doing is pointing out that the consequences of allowing biological males that identify as female into female only spaces is that any male can then use those female only spaces, making them no longer female only spaces.
You've done nothing but tell lies and make up imaginary quotes so you can dance around the fact that you have no actual rebuttal.
Sigh, you are saying those things. Repeatedly. Instead of acknowledging that I am pointing out that you are, in fact, making these claims, you saying I am being disingenuous and a liar. It's a classic defense, for sure, to project as such.
Gender neutrality and the removal of gender and sex from bathrooms is not an inherent risk to anyone and does not subject them to aexual perverts. My evidence are things like the existence of gender neutral bathrooms not being sexual menaces upon people in public. This means that a step towards neutralizing either the gender, genital/sexing of bathrooms does not have an inherent co sequence of allowing perverts more access to bathrooms. It's a false equivalence and an unreal consequence.
In fact, it's closer to say the sexualized spaces of genital specific bathrooms is what actually puts those spaces at risk of perverts. Since you're missing the point, the circular nature of this self fulfilling prophecy is what I was referencing previously.
You can scream and sling insults about what you thing I have been doing engaging you here. That's what makes this a special place.
Show me where. Quote them.
100% false. It makes female safe spaces no longer that since males can simply come and go as they please. Female safe spaces exist for a reason.
Who is saying bathrooms are sexualized? Only you. Very odd. Something being sex based doesn't "sexualize" it.
Just more disingenuous arguments and lies from you.
Me: 1+1=2
You: No, 1+1=3. You're saying that 1+1=7 which is wrong.
Me: No, I'm saying 1+1=2. Where did you get 7 from?
You: You keep saying 1+1=7.
"Oh but you see, I have made you the soyjack, and have portrayed myself as the chad."
It's okay if you're mad. I'm not disappointed.
FWIW I have explained what I mean in every post and I have asked questions in every post you've completely ignored or haven't answered in the slightest. There clearly is nothing more of value that you can express.
Your homework, if you choose to accept it, is to read up the thread and live with the questions only rhetorical for you to marinade upon.
So no, you can't show me where and you can't quote them hahaha
It is hard quoting things that don't exist.
"hahaha"
It's all there for people to read. Just doing my part in helping you get the ol noggin cranking on why you hold those opinions.
So anyway, right: the numbers: 1+3 = 4 2+2 = 4
(You got this!)
Still waiting on those quotes mate. How many more posts can you go without being able to provide any?
Fucking A man, my replies are directly quoting your above posts. I don't know why you can't figure out how to scroll up.
Your replies with zero quotes have the quotes?