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Democrats need to pull themselves together and remember: Biden is still better than Trump
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During Clinton v Trump I was screeching about abortion rights. Oh well, right?
Sure would have been nice if Democrats did anything about the filibuster and passing legislation to codify abortion rights when they had majorities at the start of the Clinton and Obama presidencies, rather than just campaigning on the possibility of Republicans ramming through their anti-reproductive healthcare stances when they couldn't, and wringing their hands about bipartisanship when they did have chances, wouldn't it? Same sort of posturing and preening that we get on so many topics this election cycle that, even if Democrats get an overwhelming mandate in, they will proceed to do absolutely nothing to actually implement a permanent solution to so in 2028 they can cry wolf again. Remind me how the story of the little boy crying wolf ended, could you?
Sorry, what about the fact that real people lost their ability to get abortions is crying wolf? There was an actual fucking wolf just like I was crying.
The fuck? What do you think that story is teaching?
Yes, it would be nice if they had the majority required to enshrine abortion rights in law. But that wasn’t reality.
What was reality is enough Republicans in power believe it should be taken away.
So, just like this whole damn OP is about - while Dems aren’t what we actually want, they’re a whole lot fucking better than the alternative.
Well, there's the whole "Republicans are going to overturn Roe v Wade, vote for us so we'll protect your rights" bit they've been coasting on for 30 years that they did fuck all about the entire time. That's the crying wolf. They had chances to do so, and chose not to.
That's... Not what crying wolf is. That would be warning people that electing Trump would affect abortion rights and get them more SCOTUS seats and then that NOT happening. Except it's exactly what happened. We cried wolf and there was a wolf...
I think you're delusional if you think even Dems had the majority required to make that into law in the past 30 years.
You're being rather obtuse here, the Democrats have been crying wolf over Republican attempts to overturn Roe v Wade for decades and did nothing to prevent it, this isn't an issue that only popped up for Hilary's campaign in 2016. What a surprise that it actually gets through and done when people have already been desensitized to Dems saying "Watch out, they'll take away your right to an abortion, but if you vote for us, we'll protect it!" and nobody actually believes they'll do anything about it beyond say "Watch, the Republicans are coming for your right to abortion!" They could literally win every seat in the House and Senate, and they'd probably still sit on their hands so they could campaign on it again in a few years rather than settle the matter.
I gave you two examples within the last 30 years where they had the numbers to remove the filibuster and enact legislation. Those are just times when they had a sizeable enough margin, they could have passed the legislation in spite of idiots like Manchin and Lieberman.
Your continued misuse of the parable notwithstanding, I think you believe more Dems would have supported it than actually would have. Those chances go down the further back you go.
Dems are not a monolith.