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Went to a Palestinian solidarity protest/rally with some new folks who’d become radicalised against America/the West over the last six months. They aren’t socialists (yet, I’m working on it) - but they’re good people. So, seeing the genocide and its support by our governments filled them with disgust. We talked about the Nakba, the history of Zionism, and the current apartheid etc.

Now, we come to the protest.

Overall, the atmosphere was incredible. Lots of cool signs, different kinds of people, and, of course the pigs. That’s not the problem.

The problem was the fucking speakers. I swear, at least half of them had to be feds whose entire job was to turn people away from turning up at these events.

Some of them, and I mean this literally, wanted the crowd to chant “we support October 7” and “we stand with Hamas”.

I swear, the way the people I was with turned to look at me.

Not every speaker was like this - most were genuine. They talked of labor solidarity, campus organizing, personal anecdotes. But all of that made these speakers stand out all the more.

The worst part is that when it would happen, the organisers was one of them. So this entire thing was a sham from the start.

I feel so bad. I shouldn’t have just brought people to a random protest I saw and should’ve vetted it first.

Like, seriously. I can’t fucking get over this. Who organizes a protests of people from all walks of life in support of Palestine and wants them to chant we stand with Hamas and let’s do one hundred more October 7s?.

Jesus fucking Christ.

Like, of fucking course Hamas is a natural reaction to apartheid and ethnic cleansing and genocide. And of course Oct 7 is nothing compared to the 200 days that followed since (or the 75 years that preceded it). But come the fuck on.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Sure. But our correct understanding is like "resistance is justified, and we think this was the character of October 7th, but also it seems to have resulted in Israel kicking off a genocide instead of the liberation of Palestine, and Hamas is a reactionary religious group". I know there is a tendency for liberals to support Palestinians only when they're losing. But rather than unlimited support for Hamas 10000 Oct 7ths on the first world I think we should tell them the truth: it's critical support, here's the reasons Hamas has surpassed the PFLP or Fatah, etc etc. People don't arrive at real political ideology by taking the average of everything they've ever heard.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

And how do you make this a protest chant? There has to be some concise expression to allow a more nuanced conversation to develop, and I struggle to find one better than saying you support the resistance