this post was submitted on 14 Mar 2024
738 points (97.9% liked)

Technology

60102 readers
2116 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 271 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (9 children)

I don’t visit Reddit much anymore, but isn’t that the way ads have been for awhile over there?

[–] [email protected] 74 points 9 months ago

It is...but they need to highlight it to investors now.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

Yes, they're taking from the Apple playbook so people who don't know will think they actually do things that don't involve leather or sheep at Reddit HQ. It's IPO shenanigans.

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It used to be, they were called sponsored links, but the comment sections got filled with angry comments about the ads and people would downvote the shit out of them, then they removed comments, and after the redesign ads didn't have threads/engagement but now they do.

One of my friends tried advertising that way and it went poorly, and the ads weren't even for a real product just a test balloon for the concept.

Pepe also got very mad when your ad replaced the moose in the sidebar.

Ironically, it was spez who introduced sponsored links with comments then, so what's old is new again! I wonder if this time will be different... (Not really, I know how this will end)

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

The difference is companies used to just run their own super cheap bots to spam fake "engagement" to the site. Now since the API is gone they have to pay Reddit directly for the privilege.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago

On "old reddit" the posts were highlighted so you could tell

I think with the new Facebook style feed it might not be.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] [email protected] 221 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

Organic advertisements that look similar to user posts on reddit? How could they do such a thing?

Anyway, fellow lemmings, for no apparent reason, Today I Learned that Academy Award and Golden Globe nominated movie, "Barbie", is now available on Blu-ray and select streaming services.

[–] [email protected] 110 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 42 points 9 months ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 53 points 9 months ago (1 children)

All I know is, they pay me every time I say it. Brought to you by Carl's Jr.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Fuck you! I'm eating!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago

I was about to tag Margot Robbie, but of course it's you

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The subreddit /r/hailcorporate has existed for ages pointing this out. Shills have been around since forever and buying upvotes is trivial.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

[Authorized by the mods] I'll be giving away 2 sets of these cool gamer keyboard and mouse with neon lights that I just happen to like and have no affiliation whatsoever with the company at all

45k upvotes #1 on r/all

Very natural

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Eh, no shame in self promotion lol

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 161 points 9 months ago (9 children)

In early testing of the new format, Reddit found that free-form ads outperform all other ad types in average click through rate (CTR) by 28%, along with increased community engagement when comments are enabled

so they're bragging how much more misleading the new format is, gotcha.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I bet the "community engagement comments" are just people warning others that it is an ad

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (8 replies)
[–] [email protected] 67 points 9 months ago (3 children)

So if ads are just like user posts, why would companies pay for advertising when they can just have an intern, paid in "experience and exposure", make regular posts and maintain any different aliases?

[–] [email protected] 71 points 9 months ago

Ads get shown because they're paid. Regular posts compete with all other posts, and user filters and subscriptions.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Eh, not too hard to fix. Make it so that paid ads will automatically get 10,000 up votes, that would do it.

Why are people still using Reddit ?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Why are people still using Reddit?

Looking at the first page of my latest comments on reddit, I have some from /r/Wichita, /r/dndmemes, /r/titanfall, /r/KSPMemes, /r/wendigoon, /r/HeyRiddleRiddle, /r/DungeonMeshi, /r/Mythbusters, /r/TheLastAirbender, /r/gurrenlagann, /r/astrophotography, /r/haibanerenmei, /r/yourlieinapril, and /r/LandOfTheLustrous. There are far more, but that's just the first page.

A few of these have fediverse equivalents, most of them don't. None of them ever see active discussion on this platform. Even the ones that do will often go weeks or months between posts. Contrast that with /r/Wichita, which let me know 6 hours in advance that a capsule returning astronauts from the space station was going to fly over us at 4:38 AM on March 12th. Being able to see that made using reddit that day absolutely worth it.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Artificial ranking. Without an API it’s much less reliable for botnets to astroturf; now they’re said “if you can’t beat em, join em” and closed the API and everything is for sale: Even the honesty of the site.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (3 children)

This is the exact same thing Digg did when they released 4.0, which caused the huge Reddit migration almost 15 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

the problem is companies have weaponised complacency, there's too many people that don't care and that's why they keep getting away with it. do it enough times and people will begin to think it's inevitable and just put up with it.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Yep, I'm a former Digg user who left at the v4 launch because of this exact thing - they made ads indistinguishable from normal user posts.

People are saying this isn't that big a deal, that Reddit won't just die after this. The thing is, Digg still exists but it's a shadow if its former self and nobody cares about it. It's present, but its presence isn't relevant. This change is likely to push more of the users who submit quality content to Reddit away from it, degrading the site community even more than last year.

Lesson not learned, apparently.

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If the ads allow me to comment and say "your product sucks" then I don't mind.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I still use it for some of the niche communities I can't get here but I'm more than happy to drop it if these new ads somehow manage to get past uBlock

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They probably will. The next evolution in ads is going to be serving them within other organic content, your browser can’t block them if it can’t tell the difference. Now you can just pay Reddit to astroturf for you.

Drop them, they’re literally QVC.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Haha that's such a great point. I love your comment almost as much as plants love Brawndo. It's what plants crave. You can get Brawndo at every major retailer by the way and President Camacho fully endorses Brawndo.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (3 children)

How long before the new wave of reddit immigrants here lol

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Realistically, this likely won't piss off their userbase nearly as much as the API fiasco last summer. A significant amount of users stayed in light of a number of subs going dark, so I have a feeling an influx in ads won't really grind too many gears (or they will but will just bitch and nothing more).

Reddit is much more mainstream these days, and your average Melvin is just used to ads at this point.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I cannot wait to see this Reddit IPO fail, it will be the fucking most glorious thing when fuck face spez has to face the music.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (5 children)

the platform’s most popular post types, the megathread, which is a sort of one-stop-shop for discussions about popular topics. Similar to megathreads, free-form ads are meant to help readers get the information they need quickly. The company says the new ad format would be a good way to do things like launch a product or introduce a brand to a new audience.

imagine seeing a new mega thread each time a brand releases a new flavor of deodorant or something

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

Pretty sure ads have to be identifiable as ads almost everywhere, against misinformation (because ads usually lie).

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The worst thing is when you open the sidebar. If you click too fast on a sidebar item it registers as a click on the first ad in your feed.

I report the ad as offensive every time this happens which is almost every time.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Why stay there? Make the shift permanent!

I used nails in the past and I never went around telling people how I keep hitting my thumb with the hammer 😭. 😂. I just learned to not put my thumb there and problem solved! So just take your thumb and bring it here! No ads here! I can't believe they finally did put ads there.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's so annoying when your reading a comment and realize your reading an add god loved so wash feet add you are making me hate Jesus

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

But maybe if you keep reading you'll find out it was actually leading into telling you about the fact that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer’s table.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

All those moderators spent all those years fighting bot spam, and now the admins are deliberately opening the floodgates for the IPO.

I wish I could say I was shocked, but this was 100% foreseeable given their behavior since the third party app fiasco.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

The site has so many ad posts and shilling mods that this is basically no change at all

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

New? There used to be a whole sub dedicated to calling out astroturf ads on Reddit. We always got shouted down lol

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

"Piss on my leg once, well.. you pissed on me. Piss on my leg three times? Well.. Well.. maybe I like getting pissed on"

George Bush Jr. (probably)

Its like still being on Twitter. All the data you need is there. If you are still using these platforms, you support these kinds of polices and behaviors.

load more comments
view more: next ›