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Julia, 21, has received fake nude photos of herself generated by artificial intelligence. The phenomenon is exploding.

"I'd already heard about deepfakes and deepnudes (...) but I wasn't really aware of it until it happened to me. It was a slightly anecdotal event that happened in other people's lives, but it wouldn't happen in mine", thought Julia, a 21-year-old Belgian marketing student and semi-professional model.

At the end of September 2023, she received an email from an anonymous author. Subject: "Realistic? "We wonder which photo would best resemble you", she reads.

Attached were five photos of her.

In the original content, posted on her social networks, Julia poses dressed. In front of her eyes are the same photos. Only this time, Julia is completely naked.

Julia has never posed naked. She never took these photos. The Belgian model realises that she has been the victim of a deepfake.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Is this different to how people would edit Britney Spears' face onto porn stars in the 90s?

[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago

It's much easier to do now. You should be able to do several in a single minute and the barrier to entry of using the software is way lower than Photoshop. Legally though, these seem indistinguishable.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They're easier to create and more realistic. The prevalence and magnitude of an immoral act impacts how it should be legislated. Personally I don't care if people make these and keep it to themselves, but as soon as you spread it I think it's immoral and harassment and there should be laws to prevent it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

It's like that, except deep

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (10 children)

Probably should have sued those people too... People need to cut this shit out. You're fucking with others people's life's.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I think porn generation (image, audio and video) will eventually be very realistic and very easy to make with only a few clicks and some well crafted prompts. Things would just be a whole other level that what Photoshop used to be.

[–] GregorGizeh 53 points 7 months ago (5 children)

I said it before, banning this doesn’t work. Legislation will always play catch up to the ever improving technologies, the best we can do is flood the internet with ai porn. Of everyone, as much as possible. To the point nobody even cares any more, because there is nudity of everyone. Normalize it before it ruins lives

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (4 children)

or lean into it; ban clothing

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Big fashion will never let it pass.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Global warming hasn't made that an option around here yet. Give it 10 years.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

The other option, and the more likely one, is an extremely broad law that is intended to account for future technologies but will actually be used to further erode civil liberties.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Welcome to anarcho-naturism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Whatever I search on Pinterest, Google, Bing, the images there nowadays are mostly just AI generated. I am so used to them by now, I just don't care anymore. Whatever makes me feel like it's cool, I praise it. Recently hyper realistic AI generated videos have been popping up, and once there's enough of datasets of free porn videos, which is most definitely coming out in a few years, the Porn industry is going to be filled with AI generated porn videos as well.

I think AI generated porn videos are going to be very realistic because there's so much free porn.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago (25 children)

This is going to be a serious issue in the future - either society changes and these things are going to be accepted or these kind of generating ai models have to be banned. But that's still not going to be a "security" against it...

I also think we have to come up with digital watermarks that are easy to use...

[–] [email protected] 25 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, I see it as kinda freeing. Now people don't have to worry about nudes leaking any more, since you can just say they're fake. Somebody starts sending around deepfakes of me? OK, whatever, weirdo, it's not real.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm guessing it's easier to feel that way if your name is Justin.

If it was Justine, you might have issues.

Weird how that works.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Fair enough. Ideally it would be the same for women too, but we're not there as a society yet.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Poison the well is how we free ourselves from the vastness of the digital landscape that encompasses us. Make all data worthless.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

I think there's a big difference between creating them and spreading them, and putting punishments on spreading nudes against someone's will, real or fake is a better 3rd option. The free speech implications of banning software that's capable of creating them is too broad and fuzzy, but I think that putting harsh penalties on spreading them on the grounds of harassment would be clear cut and effective. I didn't see a big difference in between spreading revenge porn and deep fakes and we already have laws against spreading revenge porn.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

With ai and digital art... What is real? What is a person? What is a cartoon or a similar but not same likeness? In some cases what even is nudity? How old is an ai image? How can anything then be legal or illegal?

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