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Almost 10 years later CIA puppet strings in Ukraine are finally admitted. Up until now such accusations were 'paranoid delusions'. (web.archive.org)
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[–] [email protected] 92 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Toward the end of 2021, according to a senior European official, Putin was weighing whether to launch his full-scale invasion when he met with the head of one of Russia’s main spy services, who told him that the CIA, together with Britain’s MI6, were controlling Ukraine and turning it into a beachhead for operations against Moscow.

But the Times investigation found that Putin and his advisers misread a critical dynamic. The CIA didn’t push its way into Ukraine. U.S. officials were often reluctant to fully engage, fearing that Ukrainian officials could not be trusted, and worrying about provoking the Kremlin.

Yet a tight circle of Ukrainian intelligence officials assiduously courted the CIA and gradually made themselves vital to the Americans.

The imperial frontier state drew us in! We didn't want to control them, they asked us to!

[–] [email protected] 69 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Man this article has a lot of great stuff.

The agency agreed to help the HUR [Ukrainian military intelligence] modernize, and to improve its ability to intercept Russian military communications. In exchange, Kondratiuk agreed to share all of the raw intelligence with the Americans.

how are you not just literally a branch office of the CIA at that point

[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 months ago

CIA officers installed equipment at the bases to help gather intelligence and also identified some of the most skilled Ukrainian graduates of the Operation Goldfish program, working with them to approach potential Russian sources. These graduates then trained sleeper agents on Ukrainian territory meant to launch guerrilla operations in case of occupation.

Arming, training, and funding ultranationalist terrorists? Nooooo noooo you have it all wrong, these are simple staybehind operations in case of occupation. They are made of peaceful freedom-loving people who are also willing to risk being tortured to death if given the chance to kill random russians. Moderate rebels, you could say.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

HUR

Damn even their acronyms sound German

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

It literally means bitch in german slang

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago

bateman-business-card "full-scale"

[–] [email protected] 69 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I mean, ignoring my wall o’ links that just sounds like Russian propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Obviously these were Russian influence agents hard at work. /s

[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Nuking an article about the CIA has the opposite effect of silencing it lol

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago

"Mr CIA, have you heard of the Streisand Effect?"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

lol yeah the Streisand effect at work

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Didn't some famous nazi say like 10 years ago that there was CIA involvement in their org?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago

CIA involvement with Nazis predates the CIA itself.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago

operation aerodynamic never really ended

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Edit: just realized I don’t know how to pin….awkward

Thanks washedanus for finding an archive. Pinning this since the post link was removed.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Link is broken

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

This is like, the Platonic ideal of a limited hangout

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That link just goes to yahoo news not the article

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Maybe the article got taken down? It has a 404 redirect kinda thing

https://archive.ph/a0cET

Yeah, looks like Yahoo took it down.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Now entering the third year of a war that has claimed hundreds of thousands of lives

what the fuck lmfao no it has not, not even close, what the actual hell NYT? Natopedia has it at 15k deaths on the outside https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

1 casualty = 1 death. There were no injuries or prisoners.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago

Weird timing for a 2 month old article to be taken down on a saturday night just after it was posted here. Not to say hexbear or lemmygrad really matter in the grand scheme of things - i wonder if this article has been popping up in other places though?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Thanks! I’ll pin that archive link in a top level so people can easily find it.