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[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"When democracy is no longer the only way to achieve a stable middle-class lifestyle?"

jagoff

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago

glasses-off

"When democracy is no longer the only way to achieve a stable middle-class lifestyle?"

glasses-on

"When genuflecting to the American empire is no longer the only way to achieve a stable middle-class lifestyle?"

[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 months ago (4 children)

middle class

:idealism-detector:

Death to America

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago

Usually true but they define it in quantitative terms of spending here so I'll let it slide

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago

haha yeah it's a terrible term, but that's par for the course for a neocon thinktank

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

~~middle class~~ moderate prosperity

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Thye actually mean middle class in the UK sense. Smh the whole country is gonna be bougie

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago

In Authoritarian Soviet China, the so-called "middle class" doesn't even live in cookie cutter houses 40 miles away from their workplaces or own Ford F250s that are exclusively driven in urban and suburban environments, so this statement is rated 12 Pinocchios

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

And GDP PPP per capita will be around $30,000. Meanwhile China watchers are calling economic growth under Xi "slow" (when the US was at this point in its development, annual growth was about the same or slightly worse).

BTW, they define middle class as individuals spending $11-$110 per person per day in 2011 PPP terms. For context, I spend $33 in a relatively affordable American city per day just renting.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

so this seems like solid proof for my theory that imperialism is not at all necessary for having the US “middle class” quality of life. it’s just ‘necessary’ for that if ghouls are hording the majority of your countries’ wealth (so you need the tiny fraction left for you to be multiplied by the exploitation of others to be “middle class”)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely, if US economy was socialist and the workers were the primary beneficiaries of labor then US could have a phenomenal standard of living based on its internal economy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

having a massively diverse environment with lots of water and plant life will do that tbh

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Kind of related, but I found a hidden gem of a YouTube channel the other day that has like no views or subscribers and is full of videos showing off different cities in China, including rural ones, and I'm very jealous of what they've accomplished. Even their rural what appear to be little farming villages have modern housing, high speed rail, and renewable energy, so fucking cool.

Here's a link to the video showing the stuff above, but there are tons of other really cool videos as well.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Still too many cars 🥲