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[–] [email protected] 91 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Does the writer also think IVF means getting cucked by a doctor

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean, there's been multiple fertility doctors caught using their own sperm instead of the donor, so it's literally possible.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Obviously there's quite a difference between fucking a cow and artificially inseminating one... But IVF is consensual, I think everyone would have a problem if a doctor was forcibly inseminating women.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Tbh there's also a big difference between a cow and a woman

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Oh no! I had no idea they were artificially inseminating the animals, now that is a deal breaker. /s

Wtf

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Excuse me, waiter? Was this steak of virgin birth?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

"What do you think the baster is for?"

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I can excuse abattoirs but I draw the line at a vet shoving his arm inside a cow's baby hole

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I know it sounds ridiculous, but I've heard a lot of people use that same logic. "I want the cow to have a happy life before it's killed for my dinner". Isn't that the while logic behind "free range", "cage-free", etc.?

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 3 months ago (2 children)

the headline seems to be so clickbait-y that it has diverted most of the commenters from actually reading the article lol

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is beastiality the new animal husbandry?

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[–] Omgboom 32 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You don't artificially inseminate them with your penis?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

true, but as the article explains, in some places, the legal definition of bestiality does not require a penis to be involved, nor does it provide exceptions for artificial insemination of farm animals.

the 'bestiality problem' is not (thankfully) that people are out there having sex with cows in droves, but that, in their relentless pursuit of profit, the meat/dairy industries are probably violating the law, and definitely violating the livestock, on a massive scale.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You do, however, fist them up to your elbow

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That's not how artificial insemination is done. That's how you deal with digestive or reproductive issues and is very similar to how it is done in human patients. In cows you can go in right up to your shoulder.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You said, "elbow". That is incorrect. The palpating hands is used to open the vulva and guide the catheter past the urethra. It is inserted to the wrist. You can clearly see that in the photos in the publication you linked.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

well glad to know they are only fisting them to the wrist then. why are you defending that, again?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Do you know why no one takes you seriously? It's because you lie and exaggerate and over dramatize in order to try to bully everyone into doing what you want. Extremists, ALL extremists, are the same. You all think that you're somehow superior to the people you don't agree with and that that superiority justifies anything that you do or say to them in order to bully them into compliance with your extremist beliefs. This pathological self-absolution is the hallmark of all extremists: vegan extremists, religious extremists, racial extremists, anti-choise extremists, anti-LGBTQ extremists...you're all the same and everyone can see that.

The thing that you don't understand is that I (and the vast majority of people) don't give the first fuck what a self-absolving extremist with a pathologically misguided sense of absolute moral supremacy thinks.

You're not here for a conversation. You're here for ragesturbation. You people get off on rage. Sorry...I'm laughing at you, not raging.

EDIT: An vegan extremist apologist takes a run at me down in this thread. They misquote, misrepresent, hurl childish insults, and use an ineffective series of strawman arguments. They're not trying to have a conversation. They had no intention of having a conversation. They're trying to bully me into being quiet. It didn't work. Take time to read the thread. It's good for a laugh.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not OP. I think it's funny how you're accusing them of "bullying" when their comments aren't aggressive at all, just pointing out a practice they disagree with. But somehow your multi-paragraph, ~~raging~~, sorry, uh... "laughing" comment filled with direct insults and patronizing dismissal, should NOT be considered "bullying."

Like, I don't buy into the idea that anyone can bully someone else in an anonymous Internet forum, outside of doxxing or repeated harassment. But looking at this, one of you is clearly much more aggressive and bothered than the other here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Using exaggerated, inaccurate, and sexually violent language, "fisting up to the elbow", and accusing anyone who doesn't agree with them of supporting the exaggeration IS bullying.  It's attempting to bludgeon anyone who doesn't agree with their self-absolving moral superiority into submission.

It's laughable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You compared religious extremists to vegans. YOU are laughable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (9 children)

I compared one type of extremist to other types of extremists. They are the same in that they all have a pathological belief that they are superior and that the self-absolution that comes with that pathological belief justified anything they do to people they feel are inferior.

The pathology and wrong thought are the same.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yes the worst thing about the meat industry XD

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

i doubt this is the worst thing. the meat industry goes loooow.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Well now we know not to trust new republic, that is one of the most sensationalist articles I have ever seen

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for posting the article, it's very long but worth the read.

I wish i didn't currently live at a family members's house, so i could actually decide what i eat and get away from these disgusting practices.

For others, please refrain from arguing about this like this is some spccer match, i don't like what I'm seeing from the other comments, this should be taken seriously.

The meat industrial requires inhumanity to prosper, just like any other corporation, bit this one deals with animals for said animals' entire lives, this is systemized misery.

If any vegan is reading this, i might do a post requesting this later, but any resources for reading more or for moving to a more sustainable and less cruel way of living would be helpful.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

It sorta sounds like a copout but being vegan on a day to day basis means checking what is in every little thing you eat or drink, I mean literally checking labels and searching ingredients. And then you have to apply this thought process to every other area animals are used:

-Bath supplies -cleaning supplies -clothing/shoes -transportation ...and so on.

Best advice is to just pick whichever area you feel most knowledgeable or capable in, and become "vegan" in that category.

I'm not even entirely vegan, although its mainly because I'm still learning a lot about all the different ways animals come into our lives without realizing it.

P.s. almost forgot the parts vegans split on in some occasions, like with sugars or honey.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

but being vegan on a day to day basis means checking what is in every little thing you eat or drink, I mean literally checking labels and searching ingredients

That's true in the sense that you have to do it when you encounter something new, but once you become familiar with products, you just know what is safe and what isn't after a while. I wouldn't say going to the grocery store is much more difficult for me than an omnivorous person because I've been vegan/vegetarian for about a decade now and I've just got a mental list of many products I know are appropriate for me to eat. Yes I do still have to check labels when I'm getting something new (and have to stay aware of when recipes get updated) but it's not as arduous as people make it out to be, IMO.

And that's just buying processed food. If you're cooking from scratch it's pretty easy to know what's going into your food and select plant-based protein sources like tofu, beans, seitan etc.

In addition to your diet/lifestyle, I'd say you can be a force for good in the world in terms of animal welfare by just trying to consume less, have a smaller carbon footprint, and do what you can to support wildlife. Something I'm passionate about myself is converting my lawn to prairie in order to foster local wildlife. You could also volunteer your time/money towards supporting habitat restoration projects or something like that.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Frankly anything that gets bloodmouths to wake up to how fucking cruel and unusual carnism is rocks.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Hahahahaha Bloodmouths sound so childish

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

bloodmouths

That's sounds metal as fuck.

Instead of just regular eater I'm a fucking bloodmouth from now on hell yeah

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

I was thinking this must be something wild but it's just artificial insemination. Bummer

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Thought this was about the bloke not far from where I live that was caught on a hidden camera placed by activists literally fucking pigs after hours at a pig farm.

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