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[–] [email protected] 83 points 6 months ago (7 children)

This is one of the theories that explain why we don't hear anyone else in our galactic neighborhood.

Civilizations just develop highly sophisticated digital worlds that they can just live in in complete bliss forever or until their system degrades and falls apart in millions of years.

We could be surrounded light years in every direction by perverts having infinite fun with tentacle hentai porn in their perfect digital world and they will never know or want to know that we even exist.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (6 children)

But on earth that won't work because Apple and Facebook don't allow tentacle hentai on their VR headsets.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

Either these companies will die out because they won't accept tentacle hentai or new companies will take their place to offer tentacle hentai .... whatever happens, we will get our tentacle hentai and never explore the universe.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Like that’s going to stop me

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I can get tentacle hentai on my Quest just fine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

It will never be a utopia, because those companies will use it to extract your thoughts, and pump relevant ads directly into your brain. Also, you'll forget to pay your subscription and you'll wake up in hell.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Civilizations just develop highly sophisticated digital worlds that they can just live in in complete bliss forever or until their system degrades

If I want to be blissed out until my body falls apart, I can do that now by turning my retirement account into a stockpile of fentanyl. I don't think its presumed that intelligent civilizations all just do this, for the same reason I don't believe modern human civilization will collapse on itself simply because we've discovered opium.

We could be surrounded light years in every direction by perverts having infinite fun with tentacle hentai porn in their perfect digital world and they will never know or want to know that we even exist.

We struggle to confirm the existence of a ninth planet while. We're living in a solar system at the rural edge of the galaxy and we just found out black holes exist. Would we know what an advanced civilization would even look like?

We haven't even fully ruled out life on Mars, ffs. There could be a layer under the cloud system of Jupiter, Uranus, or Neptune that's absolutely teaming with life. The Great Space Whale Migration of Proxima Centauri could be happening right now and we'd never have a clue.

Do not sell the galaxy spanning race of sentient porn-loving starfish short just yet.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Tbf, turning your retirement account into pure bliss with Fentanyl greeeaaaatly reduces the amount of time you get to be blissed out. This hypothetical future likely had found a way to reach permanent bliss with as few downsides as possible

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This hypothetical future likely had found a way to reach permanent bliss

Might want to look up The Problem With Paradise

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I hear they paved it and put up a parking lot

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If I want to be blissed out until my body falls apart, I can do that now by turning my retirement account into a stockpile of fentanyl. I don't think its presumed that intelligent civilizations all just do this, for the same reason I don't believe modern human civilization will collapse on itself simply because we've discovered opium.

The key difference is that we still live in a society where, at least most people, have to work to live. If you spend your retirement on fentanyl the fentanyl isn't going to be the thing to make your body fall apart, assuming you get pure shit and are able to dose properly and not od your body can handle that for decades. What's going to tear your body apart is the poverty and deprivation of living on the streets after you lose your job. If you're in a fully automated post scarcity society and you're able to hook yourself up to one of these machines and live a long life I could see a majority of people doing that. Sure some people would object to it being meaningless, but in a post scarcity reality where God is dead, a robot can do anything better than you, and there's no conflict or competition for resources there isn't much meaning to be had anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Reminds me of the short story "Nano Comes to Clifford Falls." Basically a replicator arrives in a small town, and is freely available to use. At first it's great, but then it's not. I won't spell it all out, but I remember it being framed as a kind of few facto civilisation/personal "test," and that some people just can't handle life without the struggle.

Kind of a problematic take, if I'm remembering it correctly, but story still had a big impact on me.

CW: attempted sexual assault, in case anyone decides to check it out.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Basically a replicator arrives in a small town, and is freely available to use. At first it’s great, but then it’s not.

I'm familiar with the story. It was popular in conservative circles in the same way "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" was popular.

I'm not stranger to tech pessimism, but - setting aside the fantastic nature of the premise - there's little to support the theory that economic surplus has been bad for social cohesion. Given enough free time, people tend to be remarkably creative and productive. And a great deal of modern social cohesion is predicated on a certain ambient abundance of energy, housing, etc.

To quote Alfred Henry Lewis

There are only nine meals between mankind and anarchy

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I hadn't thought of the story as explicitly conservative, but thinking about it again through that lens, I can definitely see it.

As for the quote, I remember hearing it as "barbarism" instead of "anarchy," but right you are. Actually, the search for more context lead me the full source (from his talk page), which is actually a really good read.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

It’s not inherently conservative, just like the tragedy of the commons isn’t. However, its infuriate and most obvious takeaways are those that works appeal to a certain conservative mindset.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

VR porn + haptic suits = great filter

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Porn + direct brain interface = great filter

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

If that DBI can completely disconnect you from your actual body? (yes I saw that season of that anime where they used them on surgical patients and shit in lieu of heavy sedation that's what I'm talking about) Chronic pain could become a thing of the past sign me the fuck up. Shit, just hook it up to my actual eyes I'm good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Gonna need to see a Kurzgesagt video on this one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A system that lasts a million years? Man, we can't even build a system that lasts a month without constant maintenance.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

But what a hell of a month it will be

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I bet you could get really energy efficientefficient with it too. Like convert people into highly specialized pleasure nodes in a vast network spanning the circumference of the sun's orbit

[–] Omgboom 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Like the sleepers in Eve online

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (3 children)

The other one is that if we were to disasemble all our planets (we can leave earth alone for sentimental reasons) and rebuild them in shells around our sun we could create as much habitable living area as the surface of every natural planet (habitable or not) in our entire galaxy. Plus the whole thing would fit inside the orbit of mercury which means very low light lag. Why build a galaxy spanning empire when you can just build a galaxy at home and have much better ping?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Oh, a theory pushed by people that have no idea about the size of a galaxy? I like it.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Dyson Sphere

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This has meme template potential.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Honestly though, he’s not hurting anybody else so let him enjoy it.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Pretending like addictions don't hurt anyone else is selfish and naive.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

A serious take on a meme about a guy hooked up to an auto masterbator

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah there's no chance that it's an analogy or something.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He's also hooked up to a heroin IV lol

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (3 children)

TFW you know how to spell 'masturbate' correctly, but not really sure you should point that out.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

good point. mastur isn't in the English dictionary, its from the Latin masturbatus. and fap used to mean 'drunk' in the 16th century.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

It's a brand name!

[–] tigeruppercut 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No no, he's an expert at bating. Clearly he's just edging.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Ah, as in abate.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

The entire circumstances of biological life is weird. You gotta deal with the fact that we're aware of the pointlessness of what turns us on. You can find a little bit of functional meaning of you dig into it, but it's a fucked up rabbit hole best avoided.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (3 children)

The novel The Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect explores what might happen if this technology were available to everyone. Good read, kinda fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Real page turner that one. Crunchy and fanfic-y in a good way. The pedo stuff way way too detailed for my comfort, but if that's not a trigger for the reader, then it's a real head trip.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Oh wow! Great to see a reference out in the wild!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

The matrix after (before?) enshittification happened

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Do you think enough Harry Potter porn is produced to cover a continuous video stream / decent-rate picture slideshow?

Anyway, these could be AI-generated with feedback from EEG.

[–] Honytawk 4 points 6 months ago

Nah, it is just the same "Harry getting railed by the hippogriff" on a loop

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wouldnt call catatonia very enjoyable

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Yeah, whatever dogatoniaist.

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