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Republican supporters of the ban said it would help police crack down on protesters who wear masks

House Bill 237 would ban everyone, not just protesters, from wearing masks in public for medical reasons if it becomes law. It passed 30-15, with every Republican in favor and every Democrat opposed.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Sometimes I really fucking hate this place instead of just regular fucking hating it

Our family will still mask when we're indoors in public regardless of the laws around it

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh fun, I guess I’m about to become a criminal.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago

I've been a criminal for a loooooong time

Just that now, I'm gonna be a masked criminal instead of a hood and sunglasses criminal

[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Batch and Grafstein each proposed amending the bill in ways they said would still give police the power that Republicans have said they want, to crack down on masked protesters, but to add back in legal protections for people who wear masks for public health reasons.

Compromise!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

Yeah perhaps this was gamed from the start https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchoring_effect

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

"We'll only let you shoot 75% of us, not 100%"

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago

Posting this as a throwback story of NC history.

In response to the white supremacist Charleston Church Shooting of June 2015, there were public protests for the removal of confederate monuments from public property. In July 2015, North Carolina passes a law which makes it illegal for local governments to remove confederate statues from public property.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_History_Artifact_Management_and_Patriotism_Act_of_2015
https://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation/SessionLaws/HTML/2015-2016/SL2015-170.html

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago

Such freedom in America.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I feel this is the first of many laws like this. I haven't felt this deeply crushed, hopeless, and afraid for a very long time. It's hard to keep going when your life is so small and everyone in power is bent on making it even smaller. I don't know how I will do it, and sometimes I wish I wouldn't keep trying.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

It helps to read history. People have persevered under way, way more brutal regimes than this. And won. Before the 1917 revolution people operated under the Okhrana, the Tsarist secret police, who could disappear and torture you for any reason whatsoever. Striking workers were massacred by the hundreds. And still people organized. They persevered. And they won.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago

Republican supporters of the ban said it would help police crack down on protesters who wear masks

he-admit-it

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago

my uncle is a lawyer and he says killing someone trying to take your mask off of you is self-defense.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago

Republican supporters of the ban said it would help police crack down on protesters who wear masks

Tell me you know you're the bad guy without telling me you know you're the bad guy.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to go on a limb here and assume that this was slammed through so quickly they didn't think about people who literally have to wear a mask on the job, like construction workers filling in insulation, and it's just going to create a giant expensive mess for a few months before it's thrown out by the courts for being absolutely asinine

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

like construction workers filling in insulation

They want this back:

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

Asbestos shovelling competition lmao

Now excuse me while I go to my work-sponsored microplastic eating challenge

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This was always the end goal let’s be honest. Any time the marginalized repurpose a tool for use to benefit all, it’s always going to be swiftly squashed. Especially in a surveillance state

“Bug bug bug my China is a surveillance state!!!!!!1111” OK? But it seems that most of the people living in China can afford to live (i.e. the bare fucking minimum)

The bar doesn’t even exist in amerikkka

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago

China, famous for being a place where people aren't allowed to wear masks

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago

deeply unserious country

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago

covid when it has a state-wide incubator POG-19

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

~~Health reasons~~ Camera reasons

Wear your mask

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

The evil liberal surveillance state wants to force me to wear a mask, so I will get my good more reactionary surveillance state to prevent anyone to do so.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Also passing the Senate Wednesday were bills that would: Modernize sex crime laws to address new technologies like artificial intelligence. Increase toll road late fees by 50%. Allow billboard companies to cut down more trees on the roadside. Automatically charge 16- and 17-year-olds as adults in many felony cases, a partial reversal of juvenile justice reforms that went into effect in 2019.

They’re really on a roll over there. Not that the democratic governor is going to sign ~~any of this bullshit~~ the mask ban

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah, they've had similarly performative vice-signaling bills in recent legislative sessions: https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a40543385/north-carolina-wants-remove-free-public-ev-chargers/

Edit - Although it looks like the Republicans have the votes to override a veto on the mask ban, so this one might not end up being performative.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

Wear the mask for fashion reasons.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

For all you who may be in NC, I've found a good way to talk some sense into some people (you gotta feel 'em out a little bit) is to point out that masks make facial recognition based surveillance harder. This law would potentially make the argument way stronger to those open to coinspiracy theories.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But this is literally the reason that they're doing it. It's not even a conspiracy. they said it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Seriously, you'd have better luck changing the minds of people who support this bill by telling them that the Radical Liberals leaked chemicals into the air that turn you gay and trans when you breath them in and you need to wear a mask to avoid exposure

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

Are they going to make all safety devices illegal?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

State legislatures are so grossly gerrymandered.

Also, surely this is unconstitutional?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Carolina is just Florida for people who still like to feel superior to Florida.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Nice, just in time for bird flu

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

I wish they'd done this in texas instead tbh

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Lot of great folks in that state. Wish they were in a better place. Music scene in parts of NC is so fucking nice.

There's a legitimate NC to philly pipeline lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Death to America