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[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago (2 children)

"No no you don't get it, Stalin had to shoot the queers! And Mao! And Deng! And Jiping! Queers are [checks notes] capitalist inventions! Please ignore that queer people have existed since pre-history!"

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago

"Trans women throwing bricks at cops is bourgeois decadence"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Who says this?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (3 children)

This is the sort of thing that could happen in places like Texas and Arkansas, South Carolina and Alabama. maga nation.
It is impossible for this to happen in places like California or New York.

If you are LGBT in a red state or a swing state, and say that both parties are the same, you are an idiot. If you neglect to vote for Democrats in November, you are stabbing yourself - and all the LGBT community - in the back.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago (6 children)

this is about beijing, China, not beijing, Alabama

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Replace could with is.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago

"still an authoritarian shithole huh."

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Appears to be a year old, if anyone else was wondering. Doubt things got any better afterwards...

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/health/asia/article/2001473226/beijing-lgbtq-center-shuttered-as-crackdown-grows-in-china

An advocacy group that also served as a safe space for the LGBTQ community in Beijing became the latest organization to close under a crackdown by Chinese leader Xi Jinping's government.

"We very regretfully announce, due to forces beyond our control, the Beijing LGBT Center will stop operating today,"

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Obviously if Joey would stop all genocide in the world by waving his magic wand, China would suddenly accept LGBT people.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No ones criticizing him for not stopping it, but for actively being involved in it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (2 children)

No ones criticizing him for not stopping it

I can provide examples from Lemmy itself in this very community if you like.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bad wording, of course people want him to stop it. Not criticizing him for doing nothing maybe.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, like people saying "Biden could stop this today with a phone call if he wanted to"

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

He probably could, netanyahu would have a hard time saying no, for one good reason. We're supplying the weapons and money, we can end his resources for the genocide with or without his say.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

He probably could

And yet you also think

No ones criticizing him for not stopping it

If you think he is capable of doing so, why wouldn't the criticism not only exist from others on the left, but also be warranted?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

You actually just got this person to call themselves out without them even knowing.

Bravo!

[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Did you just entirely gloss over my response about bad wording

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bad wording, of course people want him to stop it. Not criticizing him for doing nothing maybe.

If I'm off the mark, what IS this trying to express? In 'good wording', if you will.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The second sentence?

Sure. What does "Not criticizing him for doing nothing maybe." mean?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Hes not an innocent bystander thats not taking action to stop this genocide. Hes taking action to cause the genocide. If he did nothing instead the genocide wouldnt have the funds and weapons to do what its doing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Then you agree that there are people are operating under the delusion that Biden can stop the genocide with a snap of his fingers and are criticizing him for that, making your original objection to the guy with a smiley face avatar utterly pointless.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No theres people accusing him of facilitating the genocide.

Like people arent protesting in Japan that their Prime Minister isnt stopping the genocide.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No theres people accusing him of facilitating the genocide.

There's also people accusing him of not stopping the genocide.

Like people arent protesting in Japan that their Prime Minister isnt stopping the genocide.

... do you think the Prime Minister of Japan has the power to stop the genocide?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 3 months ago

Just aint gonna get away from my bad wording. People are calling for him to stop the genocide in the sense that him doing nothing will stop the genocide. Like a serial killer can stop the murders. Its different than saying police didnt do enough to stop the murders.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They’d absolutely have the funds and weapons to do what it’s doing.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They have nukes. Netanyahu has leverage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nuclear weapons don’t really provide room to maneuver when you’re on the phone with the US President, unless you’re willing to threaten a nuclear strike on the US.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Obviously Israel isn't threatening the US. They're threatening Iran

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Joe Biden invented homophobia, pass it on!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Up until Joe Biden, homosexuals were considered royalty throughout history.

[–] luciferofastora 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"What about..." not the point. Both are shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Everyone is shit.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is it because Joe Biden hates gender and sexual minorities?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Must be. Damn you, Chairman Biden!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

He can't keep getting away with this!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

China is bad about LGBT rights.

There has been some progress, but it's mostly driven (as it has been in other countries) from the bottom up, from grassroots changes in attitude, and not from the central government. While China doesn't have the tradition of conservative Christian beliefs that fuel hatred in the US, there's other beliefs that fuel prejudice and discrimination, especially among older generations.

Many Western sources do try to leverage LGBT issues for geopolitical agendas, as they do with Palestine, for example. But that doesn't mean that what they say is false. I believe cross-referencing between Western sources and pro-LGBT Chinese sources such as Sixth Tone gives the most accurate picture of the state of things on the ground. Personally, I found Naomi Wu's perspective to be an invaluable case study, before she unfortunately ran afoul of censors on a different issue.

Hopefully the situation improves for queer people in China, but I fear that increasing global tensions will only slow down progress on that front.

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