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[–] [email protected] 136 points 5 months ago (2 children)

My bet is on beeswax for the non-vegan ingredient.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 months ago

You would be right. I have the same packs. I don't know if I bought old stock, but I bought the pack with the blue lid recently, the black lid pack is older.

The black lid pack contains bee wax and more water than the blue lid pack (64% vs 57% of the natural ingredients).

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Probably this and a synthetic emulsifier/surfactant or the like.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That would be vegan though

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It depends. Many vegans see any product that "exploits" animals as nonvegan. That includes things like down feathers, wool and honey.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Not a natural ingredient though.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

And beeswax is an animal product.

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[–] [email protected] 99 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (10 children)

"Matt" paste? Isn't it "matte" or am I taking crazy pills again?

Edit: What the fuck... It's spelled differently in the UK, the US, and Canada (where I'm from). It's matte in Canada, mat in US, and matt in the UK.

From the Government of Canada website: https://www.noslangues-ourlanguages.gc.ca/en/writing-tips-plus/matte-mat-matt

[–] [email protected] 148 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure it's matte in the US, too

[–] [email protected] 85 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Seconded. Literally have never seen it spelled mat.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 5 months ago

It's definitely matte in the USA.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thirding the notion that it's definitely not "mat" in the US. A mat is something you put on the ground, Matt is my cousin's ex-fiance, and matte is a surface finish with little to no shine.

Really don't know what people say English is hard to learn, we use the same word for so many things that there's fewer words to learn /s

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why waste time say lots words when few words do trick?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

USA here- matte

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago

It’s matte in the US. I think the manufacturer is just being silly

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

From the UK. I've never seen matte spelled as matt. CA, UK and AU are generally pretty close with spelling, whereas the US is usually off doing its own thing. It's a similar thing to blonde and blond.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago (15 children)

Blonde = female; blond = male

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

But that's the french's fault.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Now I'm not saying anything, but I dated a Matt, and he did produce a lot of paste... I'd have to run the numbers to see if it's viable for mass-production though.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Yep all 3 are valid, matte is the new variant. https://www.etymonline.com/word/matte#etymonline_v_9722

And I’ve seen all 3 in use in the USA. It’s not matte = Canada. I’ve seen matte more than mat which is historically the spelling. The oed doesn’t list matt as the proper spelling but who knows with the brits.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 5 months ago (10 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

I'm the non vegan ingredient.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Matt's just fine, what do you think they made the paste out of? "Is that hair gel?"

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago (6 children)

It's no longer labeled vegan. A lot of producers actively avoid the label, despite the fact that the Vegan Society would provide their stamp of approval. I've heard somewhere putting it on your product lowers sales. All this to say, are you certain it's actually not vegan anymore?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

Someone said the non vegan version has bee wax in it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Definitely a thing. Vegan can be hidden somewhere on some products, or they might use different language.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I ran an experiment a few years ago at a party I hosted. I had two trays of Oreos. One labeled 'Oreos', the other labeled 'Vegan Oreos'. Now, Oreos are vegan, but aren't labeled as such. I had to refill the standard Oreos a couple times throughout the night. The 'Vegan' labeled tray ended the night with more than half still there. Vegan definitely plays a role in sales, and not always for the best.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It looks like the 91% natural ingredients version has benzyl alcohol as a preservative which is typically synthetically derived and in my experience can drastically shift the bio-based ratio.

As far as I can see, the rest of the ingredients are the same, but the sourcing of those ingredients could be different which could also shift the naturally derived percentage.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago

Who's Matt and how come you've got his paste?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I wouldn't even be surprised if this is just a shift in marketing. The "Vegan" label, in particular, has fallen out of style as more and more men become obsessed with meat-based diets.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's some kind of hair gel, you don't eat it.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

I think you might have gotten old stock when you bought a 'new' tin. When I look on their website, it only has the vegan formulation listed, and the ingredients do appear to be derived from non-animal sources.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Welp, looks like I won't be licking your hair anytime soon you monster.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Damn, I guess you will have to find a new hair product to eat.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

You are showing them backwards - the NEW formulation is the one that says vegan. Did you buy the second one at Big Lots or something?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I was about two make a whole lecture about percentage points but it just so happens it actually is ~6% less in this case.

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