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Blinken expresses frustration at changes to Gaza ceasefire deal requested by Hamas (www.cnn.com)

submitted 2 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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A diplomatic source told CNN the Hamas response “contained amendments to the Israeli proposal, including a timeline for a permanent ceasefire and the complete withdrawal of Israeli troops from the Gaza Strip.”

A senior US administration official told CNN that “the goalposts are moving,” in Hamas’ response, and the group “is now pressing for even greater specificity than it did before.”

Did they think no questions would be asked or details were needed?

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago (2 children)

...the complete withdrawal of Israeli troops from the Gaza Strip.

Why should that be a problem? Isn't it a fair request to have the invading army leave their land for the purpose of a cease-fire? Was there an intention to have a ceasefire all the while IDF soldiers point guns at Palestinians?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago

Feels like they had no actual plan for if the deal was accepted

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

For formal peace absolutely. For a ceasefire to allow hostages to be released and prisoners returned, a full withdrawal doesn't make sense.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago

Why does everyone think Hamas is fucking stupid? Israel violates agreements with Palestine constantly, their increased illegal settlements on Palestinian land is what motovated the current conflict. If Israel and the U.S. are unwilling to provide something as simple as a timeline, I don't think Hamas is the one negotiating in bad faith.

[+] [email protected] -23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

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[+] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Removed, civility.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Go ahead and remove this entire comment thread Jordan, I don't think he and I will be reaching any type of civility with each other any time soon. Sorry.

[+] [email protected] -14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nope, not Jewish or Israeli, don’t really care about it. Just looking at it from their perspective. They’re whooping the shit out of Hamas in a war currently, why would they stop unless they get everything they demand?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Where did anyone say Jewish?

[+] [email protected] -13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don’t care about Zionism in the slightest. I’m interested in how international states interact with each other.

We all care about innocent people being killed. Israel and Hamas do not. So we need to take our emotions out of the equation and look at this situation from their perspectives. Israel will not stop killing people unless all of their demands are met. Hamas will not get anything they demand because they are currently being obliterated, they have no leverage in these negotiations

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you're calling us terrorists apologists, then you're parroting Zionist propaganda. Emphasis on the parrot.

[+] [email protected] -9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There is a war. One side is winning, the other is being decimated. Why would the winning side come to the table and make any concessions?

Take all the emotions out of it. Remove the actors and please answer my question.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There is a genocide, and there are freedom fighters. Tell me, which side is out there killing women and children daily. It's interesting that I've never had to see a child with the top half of his head missing until Israel started bombing tf out of Gaza.

I like how you're straight up ignoring the terrorist apologist comment you made. And really? Your current question wasn't even your original standpoint. You just came in here talking shit. So no, I don't think I give a care enough to answer your sociopathic question. "Take emotions out of it." Get real.

[+] [email protected] -8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How many women and children did the US kill in order to win WW2? War is dirty and messy and that’s why it fucking sucks. We all want it to end but sitting here trying to make an argument for why Hamas should get any of their demands is silly. Israel doesn’t care about killing innocent people to win this war, clearly. So if Hamas wants it to end, it will need to surrender unconditionally. Period. Or else Israel will just keep trucking

Is it horrible and sad? Of course. Is that going to change Israel’s tactics? Probably not. So you gotta square with reality, and if you want it to end, concessions will need to be made from your side

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You lost the argument. Take a hike, touch grass, sniff paint, jog on, do one.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I didn't call you Jewish or Israeli. I called you a Zionist.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago

https://lemmy.world/comment/10601965

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Removed, civility.