this post was submitted on 16 Jun 2024
267 points (97.2% liked)

politics

18645 readers
3580 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
  2. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  3. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  4. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive.
  5. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  6. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 20 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 81 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If there's ever been proof that America has an injustice system instead of a justice system:

  • Trump is guilty of all 34 counts, is allowed to still run free, still allowed to run for president, still gets massive coverage from every piece of media, even ones that lean liberal.

  • Every single black American has to worry about cops just randomly shooting them, without judge or jury, just executioner.

  • Women had their bodily rights revoked by an illegitimate court.

  • Trans people are new scapegoat after gay/bi/lesbian people struggled to get the same rights as the 90% since the 1960s at Stonewall.

But sure, we live in a free country where a fascist can be arrested, found guilty, lose more money than any person who could support such a fucking loser would ever see in life, and still do will in polls and not have serious challenge.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

To be fair, any American at least 35 years old can run for president. Criminal status or history isn't a block to that, to prevent pulling a Putin and jailing political rivals to clear the field. The media is also a cesspool of ragebait and train wrecks due to the 24 hour news cycle and "ratings".

[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He needs to be in a prison cell.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (4 children)

He needs to be hanged for his crimes

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He needs to be convicted for his Jan 6 treason first, of course.

The fraud convictions only warrant prison.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Oh for sure, not in the ‘hang mike pence’ way, but in my view he’s committed acts judicially worthy of hanging.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nah fuck capital punishment. Prison is fine.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

Im actually gonna double down cause in this sort of instance i disagree, Trump needs the Mussolini treatment because that’s who he really is

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

This attitude is why we still have people idolizing the Confederacy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hanged? I’d rather see his head separated from his body. Bring back the guillotine!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hanging means his death shit will be in full view, which will affect his followers final view of him. Otherwise I agree with you for say, if Kissinger ever saw justice

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Good point. I’d love to watch him shit himself while choking to death.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Aparently he's already been shitting himself durring speeches so it wouldn't be anything new.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

That’s pretty standard republican behavior.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I’m making myself groan even saying this, but this is how you create a martyr. His unreasonable followers already have chosen their narrative but you kill him and that’s all they will remember and use as an excuse for whatever comes next.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

See I would have agreed with you just a few years back, the fear of a martyr is that it will radicalize their followers. I don’t think that applies here because in their eyes he’s already surpassed martyr status

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Who cares? Let him be one. He will be any way do you not get that?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago

He's sidestepping the poor people consequences, but he is losing money, time, and opportunities.

The American legal system isn't fair, but it's important to note that it's very significant Trump was convicted and is still facing sentencing and further charges.

This article is asking ridiculous questions. How can Trump be escaping the everyday realities of being a convicted felon?

The same way literally every wealthy person in the United States avoids them. There's nothing new about this.

It sucks but pretending to be shocked that a rich person doesn't suffer the same consequences as a poor person isn't really adding anything to the conversation.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago

My brother got thrown in jail for contempt of court for 30 days for ignoring a few things for the first couple of months following an initial divorce hearing over a year ago. He's lost his promising new job because of it. If I ever get thrown in jail for contempt of court it will be a life sentence because my contempt for the American justice system is endless.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


But for former president Donald Trump – who can leverage his wealth, power and influence to sidestep the consequences of his white-collar crimes that threatened 2016 elections – that “felon” label is helping him rake in millions of dollars.

Trump, meanwhile, memorialized his Georgia mugshot in T-shirts and Christmas wrapping paper, sweaters and souvenir credit cards, and leaned on his convictions, indictments and a narrative that paints himself as a victim to raise millions of dollars for his legal defense.

His campaign reported raising nearly $53 million within 24 hours after a jury in Manhattan found him guilty of falsifying business records connected to a hush money scheme involving an adult film star and a conspiracy to unlawfully influence the 2016 presidential election.

Other GOP allies are also hoping that the verdict could boost Trump’s support among Latino voters by tying the charges against him to Latin American regimes that targeted political rivals.

“People who don’t have power or aren’t as famous as Donald Trump is – the effect of that could be life altering, and it affects everything from employment to housing to social relationships and so forth,” he tells The Independent.

Carroll Bogert, president of criminal justice nonprofit publication the Marshall Project, wrote an op-ed for The Washington Post titled “Don’t call Trump a felon.”


The original article contains 1,119 words, the summary contains 217 words. Saved 81%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!