chapotraphouse

I still love how these were made within hours of the first plane hitting

As someone who’s lost people during 9/11 and saw the towers fall from New Jersey… you can make fun of me for all of the above.

Just the amount of cancer that spiked over the years following the attack was horrible. : p

It's a consequence of war that I don't see discussed very much - Burning buildings, collapsing buildings, the chemicals left over from explosives, various fuels and other chemicals, all take a toll on the survivors of modern armed conflict and I rarely if ever see that accounted for. Like Fallujah, with the spike in birth defects after the battle in 2004. It doesn't have to just be from DU. There are many other toxic materials that are released in to the air when a building is destroyed.

meanwhile the US government will still not apologize for nuking Japan twice, pulverizing primary schools and killing 30x as many people in the blink of an eye.

I'm uncomfortable with jokes about anything where innocent people dying is the punchline. I don't agree with the reasoning that because the US Government hasbt officially apologised to the Japanese people, then its justified to nake light of the deaths of people in the WTC.

In my view, it's not that 9/11 can't be joked about, but rather where the punchline lands. One that satirises Bush or the jingoism afterwards is different than one that implies the joker is happy about the deaths of random secretaries and janitors just because most of them were US citizens.

9/11 didn't really happen to america it happened to a bunch of random people. It was bad not even close to the worst thing that has ever happened and in no way justified killing a bunch of random iraqis

(3) You may then dispute that all the above does not justify aggression against civilians, for crimes they did not commit and offenses in which they did not partake:
(a) This argument contradicts your continuous repetition that America is the land of freedom, and its leaders in this world. Therefore, the American people are the ones who choose their government by way of their own free will; a choice which stems from their agreement to its policies. Thus the American people have chosen, consented to, and affirmed their support for the Israeli oppression of the Palestinians, the occupation and usurpation of their land, and its continuous killing, torture, punishment and expulsion of the Palestinians. The American people have the ability and choice to refuse the policies of their Government and even to change it if they want.

-Osama bin Laden

Eh I wasn’t even alive on 9/11 and people my age still make jokes about it, probably because every year in middle and high school we were forced to have a #neverforget presentation/assembly

It's a pretty decent refutation of Great Man Theory. bin Laden was just a guy who had the right connections to get the attack plan rolling. The hijackers were just 19 random dudes, not commandos or spec ops. Their plan worked because it was a vector of attack that hadn't been seriously considered and no one was really trying to defend against.

Well, people from like 40 countries died, including China 🇨🇳

Thank you. I know how hard it was for you to make the change.