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[-] [email protected] 70 points 5 days ago

Aww man you know who i really want to hear from right now is fucking fetterman

[-] [email protected] 34 points 5 days ago

Guy who has been acting erratically since his stroke: "Biden seems fine to me!"

[-] [email protected] 56 points 5 days ago

Lots of people denying what’s fucking obvious. Biden’s a wreck. I’m voting for him, but let’s not kid ourselves. Politics is 75% bullshit showmanship these days. Biden can’t do it.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Yep. With you.

I'm voting for Joe Harris.

Not happy About voting for a guy who's gonna die and leave us with a cop, even if she would be the first female pres.

Here for it if it ain't the wannabe dictator.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago

A vote for anyone who isnt biden is a vote for trump.

Dont kid yourself

[-] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago
[-] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

I also haven't had caffeine yet and assumed a guy named "Joe Harris" was some 3rd party candidate.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Lecturing is more fun than reading.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Not sure where I said something different to that sentiment. You're arguing with a void.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

Last 4 years of many small and large pieces of progress would differ - a President isn't a single person, it's an administration and a general philosophy for 4 years.

Glad you'll vote, because we vote for Biden so that democracy remains in tact and we retain the right to organize in the streets against Joe in his second term if he doesn't use his second and last term to start approaching the BIG SHIT - Medicare for all, expanding the Supreme Court, immigration court reform, actually punishing people after the inevitable next January 6th, etc.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

He can’t tackle SCOTUS expansion unless we also vote in a solid majority in the Senate, and he can’t tackle Medicare for All unless we vote in a supermajority.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Maybe, but a "nothing to lose" legacy-sealing presidency could mean that he'd get his administration to exhaust all avenues either way. Any meaningful effort from the bully pulpit towards expansion, term limits etc. Would be unprecedented, historic and drive a needed national conversation. Same goes for Medicare for all.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

We won't do it then, either. We'll just figure out a larger number of senators we'll need to do anything.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

I respect your optimism, and I will be voting for Biden as he's the least worst option on the ballot. But for the policies you mentioned, Biden is NOT your man.

In 2020, Biden said he would veto Medicare for All if it came to his desk because it is too expensive. Even a Koch funded right wing think tank says Medicare for All would save the US $2 trillion dollars over a decade, but Biden erroneously thinks (or claims to think) it'll cost too much.

Just one year ago Biden said he would not expand the supreme court because "if we start the process of trying to expand the court, we are going to politicize it maybe forever." Apparently he hadn't noticed that SCOTUS was already absurdly politicized.

As for punishing insurrectionists, Biden has taken great care to stay on the sidelines and avoid even the appearance of using the bully pulpit to push for the prosecution of the traitors that tried to overthrow our government. He should have been pressing the DoJ from day one to prosecute all of them, including Trump. We have people still in the House of Representatives who apparently gave tours to insurrectionists in the days before Jan-6, But Biden is so concerned about appearing to politicize the DoJ he's letting them essentially, and maybe literally get away with murder.

Don't get me wrong. Biden has done an adequate job in the White House, and he is not the fascist, so he'll get my vote, but make no mistake. Biden is not a progressive.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Biden is squarely not a progressive, but he and his administration are technically the most progressive of my lifetime.

It's not enough to be sure, but the above is (bittersweet) objective fact. Otherwise, for the pursuit of policies I mentioned, they are in the context of a final "nothing to lose" term, when old men fixate on sealing legacy. We elect Biden to retain the form of government that lets us openly disagree with him, fill the streets to demand change and make them uneasy of the optics until they bend.

Glad you're making an informed, considered vote at the end of the day.

[-] [email protected] 50 points 5 days ago

I guess Fetterman has experience with being a disappointment.

[-] [email protected] 37 points 5 days ago

Fetterman can fuck all the way off

[-] [email protected] 26 points 5 days ago

No one knows more than me that a rough debate is not the sum total of the person and their record,

Let's just hope voters remember that. The Fetterman senate election is a good analogy here. Celeb vs moderate with a speech impediment.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Now that you mention it, the debates between Fetterman and Oz were a lot like the last presidential debate. Oz was put together and crazy, and Fetterman kinda mumbled his way through and didn't do too well.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

You consider that train wreck of a debate a speech impediment? Fucking Christ

[-] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

Biden literally has a speech impediment. This is common, public knowledge.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/joe-biden-stutter/

[-] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago

And what we saw in the debate was more than just a stutter. The man started a point about abortion and somehow ended up with an immigrant raping and murdering a woman.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

He’s not very good at covering up the fact that he’s a full-blown conservative.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

He's never tried to cover that up

[-] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

The speech impediment didn't cause him to declare victory over Medicare.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

I mean, he has spent most of his career fighting universal healthcare.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

I guess old habits really are tough to break

[-] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

Find a single speech he had given pre 2008 where he sounded ANYTHING like he did the other night. Find any speech pre2008 where there is an audible speech impediment.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Anyone calling his performance at the debate a speech impediment is in 100% denial about what they chose to run the country

[-] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago

Not sure what you mean. Biden has a speech impediment, always has. Fetterman had a stroke, so that’s why I said they both had one

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

Find a single speech pre2008 where he sounded anything like he did the other night or any pre2008 speech where there is an audible speech impediment. He may have one but it's not detectable. What you will find through is numerous speeches where he's lying through his teeth or supporting white nationalists and right wing ideology

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

It’s always been detectable? And if you’re referring to the debate where he was sick, that’s not quite a fair comparison

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

He wasn't sick in the traditional sense, but sure keep telling yourself that

[-] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

Can we please not have another obvious dementia president like Reagan, or is that just too much to ask for in this county

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