some guy was defending pedophiles, we dunked on him, two lemmy.ml admins showed up to defend the guy defending pedophiles, we dunked on them, they blocked the comm from lemmy.ml because they're pissbabies
this post was submitted on 30 Jun 2024
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Pissbabies for sure. Damn it I guess I need move accounts to hexbear or lemmygrad.
Come to hexbear, we got hella emojis
I'm interested. I guess I will settle for hexbear.
One of us! One of us!
I made it to hexbear
Good luck on your application! Hexbear has some great comms and a huge emoji picker of 2000+ custom emotes :)
I got in. I will use the comms and the emotes. :D
When I first heard this, I was like "Ok well I wonder what other instances' emojis are like" before discovering that they basically do not have any 
lemmygrad has a few I think, and they have this bot that posts that parenti quote about the unfalsifiable anticommunist ideological framework when you type "parenti quote"
I have seen people try to summon it here! I want that bot here!
in hexbear they have to remember that parenti quote themselves and use 
to evoke it
(Tell that incel and the pissbaby mods and all the apologists...)
♫ Tell that incel and the pissbaby mods and all the apologists of their ilk: ♫
♫ You're facing the best of the shitposters, dunking on you like Oreos in milk! ♫
♫ The legs of pedophilia are exposed — their display is ever so unsightly: ♫
♫ You'll hemorrhage users, they'll all come here, for they won't take pedos so lightly. ♫
♫ Hexbear Dot Net, its federation fraught with struggle sessions and dunks galore: ♫
♫ Its posters click clack on their keyboards, turning old clowns into new site lore. ♫
♫ Take the theory that's assigned to you and read it well now before you rage; ♫
♫ Else go to our site, and see if your words are displayed at the top of our own front page. ♫
♫ |: We will gore you as the horns of the bull — tell that to the pedos' advocates! ♫
♫ Why would you defend the indefensible, unless for you there's some benefits? :| ♫
♫ Now go to our site, and see if your words are displayed at the top of our own front page. ♫ (x4)
who's producing the music video?
Aww cmon I need my dunks
Sounds like it's time for you to get a Hexbear or Grad account
Eh I'll probably spin up my own instance. Ive been on .ml since the beginning and mainly stuck around because I dont hate the people that run it and they dont defederate from cool instances. Blocking the dunk tank is super lame though.
Also been waiting for the ability to migrate my account but I dont think thats coming any time soon.
Hexbear doesn't federate to everything just be sure to message @[email protected] so that you get federated
Awesome thanks
That's cause some of the admins were semantically defending pedophilia and got butthurt that we called them out on it and removed the community for "harassment".
Check the modlog for davel and nutomic, on all related accounts.
https://hexbear.net/comment/5055021
You can find a quick summary of what davel did here
I remember the post about a moderator. Didn't know that they blocked the comm. That's very cowardly of them.
Yeah there was a bit of a struggle session/squabble and your admins blocked that comm because people were being mean to them or something?
this was the initial post: https://hexbear.net/post/2830702
The post was eventually removed (after generating a lot of discussion and getting the original user in question banned from lemmy.ml)
then there were some follow up posts more focused on two lemmy.ml admins that were perceived to have given the original reactionary mod way too much leniency and stood up for him. I think that perceived "targeting of admins" (criticizing them), is what prompted the defed of the_dunk_tank
https://hexbear.net/post/2844167
https://hexbear.net/post/2843745
Some modlog sleuthing will be necessary if you want to read all the replies back and forth, as our mods removed a lot of the comments made by davel and such for "defending pedophilia" after he got very upset that people were "casually labeling someone a pedophile"
I still don't 100% understand what part of this necessitated blocking the_dunk_tank specifically or if that will last. I hope not, but I also don't think users here were being unreasonable in being upset when they saw a guy with a long history of being shitty taking it beyond the pale, and some lemmy.ml admins rather than going "woah shit, guess that guy wasn't salvageable, sorry", came after us instead for being too aggressive about how we went after the guy and the admins that had seemingly enabled him. There was one user that may have had a personal grievance against one specific lemmy.ml admin, but even if that's the case I don't think that invalidates the rest of the genuine issues.
Oh damn. I remember the dunk tank posts. I didn't know that they blocked afterwards. That's very crybaby of them.
Oh geeze this is all pretty fresh stuff too. Shame, Davel always seemed cool. Pedo crew gotta go though
yeah... I had no opinion of him before this since I browse Local 99.5% of the time, but like you'd think after this long of us being federated he'd be familiar enough with our userbase to know A) that our heart is generally in the right place and B) that doubling down, yelling at us, and civility politics weren't going to calm people down when he was seen as defending (for no good reason) a guy that had a long history of being shitty to begin with, and now was doing pedophile apologia.
Going "Um actually, I defended him before the pedophile apologia" rings pretty hollow when he was still being super misogynist before that... Like you gotta at least lead with "this is beyond the pale and he needed to be banned", if you conspicuously don't condemn his statements and then go on to try and nitpick everything people are saying because you took it as a personal slight against you, people are going to think you actually might agree with the pedo apologist.
Like genuinely, if he didn't get so defensive, and explained how lemmy.ml's moderation policies differ from hexbear's, and that this user had been given perhaps one or two too many chances because they wanted to give him an opportunity to become a positive part of the community, which often sorely lacks the perspective of global south comrades, I personally would have been satisfied with that (though glad that I stick to hexbear)
we got a ton of rad global south and poc friends here that mls definitely missing out on by letting a piece of shit like that stay around for so long
yeah that's fair, I was being pretty generous to their excuse. I think their approach is misguided for that reason. We have managed to attract some of those people (global south and poc comrades) just by being principled and having a vibrant community, but lemmy.ml it feels like languished without a strong community before the reddit migration and was well, inundated with redditors after the migration. So they may have felt more desperate not to scare off global south comrades (if this is the case though, it clearly led them to making the wrong decision, repeatedly, and putting up with such shitlords probably scares away people you would actually want to have around way more than it could ever really convince the shitlords to change their views)
Its an unenviable spot to be in though for dess/nutomic, trying to run a general use instance, as leftists, without getting defedded by all the libs but also without utterly compromising your principles. Not having a cohesive base community hurts them a lot IMO
Oh, you had some good posts on c/badposting. What a shame.
Why? what happened
It's a shame you can't see and interact with the dunk_tank
Its ok I'll probably make a hexbear account or lemmygrad one. Fuck the cowards who blocked the comm.
