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An Atlanta prosecutor on Thursday asked a judge to begin the Georgia election interference trial for Donald Trump and 18 other defendants on Oct. 23.

The scheduling request by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis came a day after one of Trump’s co-defendants, attorney Kenneth Chesebro, filed a demand for a speedy trial in the county Superior Court.

Willis directly cited Chesebro’s demand in her filing Thursday.

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And that is a 100% reasonable start date. There is absolutely no point in delaying, and two months is plenty of time for the attorneys to review the pertinent evidence. Trump's lawyers will definitely try to argue that they need years to review everything, but that is 100% bullshit. The evidence - the text messages, the phone calls, the fraudulent elector certifications, etc. - simply aren't very complicated to go through. They're not.

October 23rd should be a slam-dunk.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would go further and say it's Trump's basic right to have a speedy trial. And I'm sure as an innocent defendant Trump will be happy with such a reasonable time frame. (/s just in case it's not obvious that I know that Trump will try to drag this until he can avoid consequences)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Defendants have the right to a speedy trial, not a long one. There is no legitimate reason to delay it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I read it as Oct 23rd, 2024, so right during the run up to the election. It is not like he is doing anything else around that time, right?

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fuck yes. Finally, one before the primaries.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Too bad it won't make a lick of dielfference, and probably will bolster the opinions of the cult members.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

probably will bolster the opinions of the cult members

Is there anything to 'un-bolster' or can we say that these people are indeed a cult and cannot be reasoned with and are solidly stuck in their commitment. A cult is perfectly capable of bolstering themselves, they need no help.

People outside that cult should try and stop entertaining the idea that they will potentially get worse by your actions or ideas. Cult ideology should never stop you in pursuing your own ideals and thoughts. They certainly will not be.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Sadly, I think the only thing that could make them stop supporting Trump is if he died. Even then, I'm not sure they'd stop. Some would move on to whatever politician was able to emulate Trump the best. Others would insist that Trump's not really dead, that he'd magically return after having destroyed the Deep State, and that we should elect him as our Forever President until he returns.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I kinda want him convicted after the primaries. I want the Republicans stuck with a nominee literally in State prison for the General.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This seemed to be popular information when I posted it (ahem) "elsewhere". Thought it might be welcome to have here.

If you're trying to keep track of where we're at in the Trump prosecutions:

This is for the 1/6 trial in Washington D.C.

If you're trying to keep track of where we're at in the Trump prosecutions:

Updated 8/24/2023

Georgia
13 state felonies
Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment - <- You Are Here
Arrest - Defendants have until noon, Friday, 8/25 to surrender voluntarily.
Trial - Fani Willis has now requested a trial date of October 23rd after originally asking for a trial date of 3/4/2024, one day before Super Tuesday..
A judge has now confirmed an October 23rd trial date for Kenneth Chesebro. But ONLY for Chesebro as he requested an expedited trial.
Conviction
Sentencing

Washington, D.C.
4 federal felonies
January 6th Election Interference
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
(DOJ lawyer Jack Smith has requested a trial date of 1/2/2024, Trump lawyers have requested a date of April, 2026. The judge will announce a final date on 8/28/2023)
Trial
Conviction
Sentencing

New York
34 state felonies
Stormy Daniels Payoff
Investigation
Indictment
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - March 25th, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing

Florida
40 federal felonies
Top Secret Documents charges
Investigation
Indictment
Original indictment was for 37 felonies.
3 new felonies were added on July 27, 2023.
Arrest <- You Are Here
Trial - May 20, 2024
Conviction
Sentencing

Other grand juries, such as for the documents at Bedminster, have not been announced.

The E. Jean Carroll trial for sexual assault and defamation where Trump was found liable and ordered to pay $5 million before immediately defaming her again resulting in a demand for $10 million is not listed as it's a civil case and not a crimimal one. That trial date is currently set for January 15th, the same day as the Iowa caucus.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Am I really the only one amused that a cheese bro is named Chesebro?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

How about a Sept. 11 trial date for Giuliani?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fani ain't foolin.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

In other news, House Chudiciary Committee, led by Gym Jordan launched investivagion into Fani Willis

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Did I miss it in the article where the clarified whether that was Oct. 23rd, 2023, or Oct. 23rd 2024? That seems like a pretty important distinction.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Delaying these trails push us ever closer to a constitutional crisis and "civil war." I say civil war that way because red states are delusional if they think they could ever meaningfully rise up again. It was possible 200 years ago because information traveled slowly. In today's world red states would lose all major cities and military bases instantly.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Things are definitely different. We aren't in some era where war is like twenty guys shooting muskets at each other.

Any state trying to break off would find their guard refusing to go along with it and the leaders of the state arrested. If the governor himself can be personally arrested nothing is going to happen.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's a Halloween miracle