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I did well at the interview. I produced not one but two different solutions to the test problem that was given to me, with time to spare. Today, I receive an e-mail where they say that they are afraid they can't provide me with 'conditions suitable for my level of knowledge and skills'.

How in the world am I supposed to get re-employed if I get rejected from entry-level jobs because of my overcompetence, but don't have the job experience in the area where I can work long-term for the non-entry-level jobs?
I love crapitalism. /s

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Lie about your job experience, every company is different anyway so if you have a good grasp of the basic skills and tools you need for you field just lie.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm sorry, but I am a terrible liar. That will simply not work for me.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're gonna have to figure it out if you want to pay for food and rent eventually

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Aw, no that's not what I meant 😭

You can use the hexbear phone repository to give you fake references. When you make your resume - lie. You figured out the two solutions, right? You have the skills and knowledge for better but they've arbitrarily decided "oh also you should've been in a FAANG the past couple years" or whatever. So lie.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

hexbear phone repository

Huh? There is one?

Nevertheless, I don't have much of a hope in that regard, as I don't find it likely that there are people from my city here (IDK how I would claim that I worked in another city), let alone ones who would help me with this.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

idk if there's really a phone repository, but my husband and I are happy to lie for any of you ❤️

we just have a small engine repair business, so might have to be creative about how we worked with you - maybe we knew you in another job, maybe you did some consulting, idk

but yeah, anybody who wants a reference, please feel free to DM me

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Huh. Consulting for an American company... That might be useful someday. Thanks for the offer xdddd

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah i don't like it either but it's not something you're allowed to be bad at. Think of it like youre talking to a pig. You never tell em the truth, you play the game. It's not lying, this a dance with moves both parties know. Bow your head, say the lines, play the part. I promise you the interviewer is doing the same. Don't make the mistake thinking you're making a human connection. Both sides just need to fit the role someone else wrote for them, and both sides will be happy if you play your part well.

Dont think of it as lying, it's more than that. It's an elaborate play and you need to fulfill your role

No i don't like it either, but i am good at it. I always feel like shit after but i get to contemplate suicide with a full belly in my own bed.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah i don't like it either but it's not something you're allowed to be bad at

I am not neurotypical enough to be good at lying. At the very least, lying creatively, i.e. coming up with falsehoods.

Think of it like youre talking to a pig. You never tell em the truth

I do tell pigs truth, even though they don't understand me. Pigs are nice and smart, just like all the other cats.

I promise you the interviewer is doing the same

I'm aware. I am still horrible at lying.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah, well then i am not sure what to say. You can't prepare false answers to expected questions before-hand? I am sorry, that sounds very difficult to deal with. Wish i had another idea

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

At best I can do omission.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Thing is, you won't know which interviews you are supposed to be the dummy and which you are supposed to be competent. Its astounding that OP even got any input on why they were rejected.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They probably had some other reason not to hire you and just gave an excuse

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Roughly a decade ago, my boss at the time had declined to hire a hatted chef (the Australian equivalent of a Michelin Star chef) for our pub so this is definitely a thing that happens.

But I think it's because they don't want to have someone that could easily leave if overworked and/or underpaid. They're less exploitable.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Off-topic, but I do find your username amusing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

<3 thanks bb meow-hug

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No, I've been on the other side of hiring committees and seen this argument. Along with other stunningly dumb ones like "if she isn't job hopping and has 8 years rising the ranks in her previous job she can't be "hungry" enough to work here"

and

"this person is too up to date with processes, it's like they're already looking for a new job when they get the old one.

Companies actively select out what the Soviets called "Shock-workers" in favour of ones that appear to work. Adjust behaviour accordingly.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

What the fuck???

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

It's because you knew 0.999...=1, wasn't it? There are some things humanity was never meant to know.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Here is the honest answer from someone who has hired people.

If you are over qualified for the job, the deal is that you will keep looking and quickly switch to a job better suited for your talents.

That means, I need to spend a bunch of time and money looking for a new candidate and spend money and time on training and getting them up to speed.

Hiring someone is extremely time consuming and pretty expensive. There are tons of no tangible things that go into considering who to hire.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Crapitalism is amazing, isn't it? Guess I'll have to die because the system is set up in a way to both force working-class people to constantly look for work, but also to make it so that people who are viewed as capable of finding work elsewhere to be denied employment.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

"sorry, we only hire desperate people for this position. Go become more desperate."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bit idea: apply to jobs with the express desire to get hired and ghost them after two weeks

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

today is my first day at seventeen new jobs. half of them i will show up to and leave at lunch, the other half i will never show up to at all. why? the world may never know. joker-che

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Wait, what if you hired someone to represent you in an interview? You could have a professional interviewer who paints the applicant in the best light possible. Take 10% of every paycheck for the first 6 months if they get hired, call it a day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I hate to kick you while your down but as a potential suitor I must also reject you on the grounds of overcompetence.