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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 month ago

move by russia invading sovereign nation is a dangerous escalation they maybe should have thought out first

[–] Blizzard 65 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It doesn't matter what Kremlin says.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Exactly, what are they going to do that's new? Take more territory? They would have already if they could. Target civilians? They're already doing that. Use banned weapons? They're already using various chemical agents and white phosphorous, so nothing new there.

The only real escalation they have left is nuclear, and that would 100% result in countries retaliating with their own, ending us all. Besides, then they're still just left with more irradiated land than they already have, there's no benefit.

Are they trying to claim they'd be capable of maintaining a war with multiple fronts if other countries openly join in retaliation? Because if they had more military in reserve, they'd surely be sending it to Ukraine to end this "2 week conflict" as quickly as possible.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Breaking News: ~~China~~ Russia Issues Final Warning (27th print edition)

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago
  • Manipulating political elections worldwide to favour far-right pro-Russia candidates was an escalation

  • Weaponizing immigration to Europe to give an anti-immigrant platform to the above far-right was an escalation

  • The irony of trying to purportedly "de-nazify" Ukraine while literally nazifying the rest of the world is just the icing on the shit escalation cake

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You know what I would consider a dangerous escalation? Bombing a children's hospital you fucking sick fucks. We need to lift these restrictions on Ukraine immediately.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

Invading a neighboring country is a dangerous escalation, and yet here we are.

Fuck off, Vovochka.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Says the country currently striking into another sovereign county’s borders. Talk sh*t get hit.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A cheese sandwich is dangerous “dangerous escalation” according to the Kremlin.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah they've been saying this every time someone helps Ukraine. First small arms were a "dangerous escalation", then heavier weapons, then tanks, then fighters, etc. etc. Funny how they don't consider eg. threatening nuclear war every second day or sabotage operations in Europe a "dangerous escalation".

I'm starting to feel like nuclear war would probably be preferable to a planet with Russia in it (the fact that I live in a country bordering them doesn't help)

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

"Allowing the guy I'm beating up to kick me in the nuts is a dangerous escalation"

Ok.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

How is it that the world is so deeply insane?

Surely I'm not the only one who sees it, right?

I mean - as just one example, we have here a country that launched a military invasion of another country, and is now trying to characterize attempts by that country to defend itself as "escalation."

The only possible "logic" behind that is that the Russian position is that the only acceptable thing for Ukraine to do is to meekly submit to Russian rule, and that anything else is such an affront that it justifies even more violence and murder.

That's stark, raving, bug-eyed insane. And it's not some derelict on a street corner spouting that insanity - it's s nation. And it's not the only national level insanity happening - hell - it's not even the only national level insanity happening today. Even as I type this, it's guaranteed that some country or some national level politician somewhere, and probably more than one, is doing or saying something at least as mind-boggling insane as that, and it just keeps going, moment-to-moment, day-to-day.

How does that even work? Seriously - is it some sort of conspiracy of silence or something? Some (potentially unspoken) agreement around the world that yeah, we know that these people are stark staring mad, but let's just pretend that the shit they spew has some merit, mmkay?

Or is it that the rest of the world is so insane that they don't even notice? (Or, it suddenly struck me, so drunk that they don't?)

I just don't get it. It's not even just countries and their leaders doing and saying things that are a bit questionable, but countries and their leaders doing and saying things that are screechingly insane - that don't even bear a passing resemblance to logic, reason, truth or reality. Day in and day out, and without even a whisper about how patently insane it all is.

I don't understand how that's even possible.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Afaik they only allowed Ukraine to do that when Russia started "I can hit you but you can't hit back because I'm in Russia" tactics. Afaik Ukraine can only strike Russia under certain strict conditions.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Afaik Ukraine can only strike Russia under certain strict conditions.

With western provided weapons. They have been performing deep strike with home grown drone/cruise missile systems. They are getting better fast.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, in a year they will have their own home grown capability. Untill then the current generation of drones is performing adequate. Once they integrate hard and software that allow the drone to finish the mission on its own in the terminal phase, it will be even more painful.

Cracking towers are good stand out targets.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Bark bark bark.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I didn't realize burying the lede was something you could do in a headline, but here's an example of it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Rattle at saber all you want Putin.