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If you hit Donald Trump with any sniper rifle calibre from 150 m distance ANYWHERE on his body, the man's toast. He's a 80 year old jellybean, held together by his personal BigMac/Adrenochrome mix.
But the dude likely played too much COD or CS and simply got convinced that Trump has too much HP and you need to go for the headshot. Motherfucking 
Bro was worries he'd just tag trump and he'd get around with 30 HP before the SS healed him.
Abe made it to hospital before he saw the killcam
His head was glowing orange to indicate his weak spot.
Ha, trump is walking around permanently stance broken just waiting for a tarnished to hit the critical
Presidents supposedly wear bulletproof suits.
(Donald Trump puts a gold coin down on tailors desk)
Tailor : Tell me, Mr. Trump is this for a formal event or a social affair?
Donald Trump : Political
I should be honest that they're technically bullet resistant and probably won't stop anything stronger than a 9mm, but that'd still probably increase your chances of survival if it's a long enough away shot (which it wasn't lol)
i loathe that you're right
Eh, he probably wears a bulletproof vest. Lightweight 'Second Chance' police vests back in the 80's were stopping point blank .38's and .44's. I'm sure whatever vests they wear now would stop a 5.56 with minimal injury.
Idk dawg, a soft kevlar vest will stop a pistol round effectively by turning a penetrating injury into a blunt force injury, and they're really only useful for stopping pistol energies. A quick Google result shows the .45 ACP having a top muzzle energy of about 600 ft lbs. The .223 has a muzzle energy of 1190 ft lbs, making it almost double the energy. Even if it didn't overwhelm a bulletproof vest, there's still a decent chance it would have clobbered the fuck out of a nearly 80 year old man who probably takes blood thinners.
yeah but I don't think he's gonna die from a broken rib or punctured lung when he's got the best medics in the world airlifting him to hospital in a matter of minutes
whereas a brain shot is one and done
you can see the appeal
anyway lesson learnt rock up with the .50 BMG next time
for the curious 600 ft lbs = ~810 joules 1199 ft lbs = ~1620 joules
a straight up 556 or 756 at that distance would probably at least break a couple of his ribs at the very best. factor in hes old. its wayy too much energy in there even with perfect armoring. not to mention you guys have easy access to both.
yall gotta be on par with your guns because shits about to go down, i mean it. we don't give enough importance to the fact they are fucking armed to the teeth and have access to everything you ever did online.
please be safe.
But the dude likely played too much COD or CS and simply got convinced that Trump has too much HP and you need to go for the headshot.
Pretty sure any person that you're looking at that is 140 yards away is probably smaller than a dime, just your heartbeat is enough to make the shot completely miss center mass.
Yep even ozempic Don is super wide
This definitely isn't something that was planned in advance. Some spur of the moment shit. Dude went hunting with an iron sighted AR-15.
i think americans are just bad at spectacular acts of violence now. we watch a lot of tv. we expect it to be easier than it is. remember that guy that attacked an FBI building with a nailgun, thinking the nails would penetrate bulletproof glass? or the nazi dipshit who wore a ski mask wrong and didn't shoot anyone?
If it were planned, he'd have the right equipment for the job (perhaps a suppressed .308 hunting rifle), have it range zeroed for expected distance and know where the SS shooters were setup.
Why suppress tho? You gotta figure you get one maaaaaaybe 2 shots if at all before you're blown away
"I'm just gonna shoot at the presidential candidate and see what happens" feels really wrong. He missed his head by a few centimetres. How is all of this even possible.
honestly first thing i thought. only reason to aim for the head instead of the body is if you're used to video games
in CQB situations headshots can be necessary and practical, but we are talking about ranges where you do not have space to fully use your iron sights or where a standard rifles zero distance is too far away for the sights to be effective (there are aiming techniques with AR platform rifles for ranges under about 50 meters where you line up the front post with the top of the rear sight ring instead of the center, and aim that intersection at the target's head, but this may only work on full length ARs or with certain sights and gun setups). at extreme CQB ranges the incidental or post-death firing of the person you just shot actually has a realistic chance of hitting you, and operating in CQB you often have to be careful with your shots to avoid hitting civillians or hostages (through walls or in the room) making rapid or automatic fire a poor choice in certain situations. if you are not worried about civillians or infrastructure you simply don't do door-breaching SWAT style CQB, you chuck grenades or a satchel charge into the building or light it up with the .50's from a mile away or call in a mortar strike or something.
however when shooting at someone from range like this, you should definitely aim center mass, unless you are like a GIGN sniper trying to take out a target with a hostage or a detonator, then you aim for the brain stem, but most SWAT style sniping is done at close range, not more than across the street of the target building, and with a scope.
but if we are being real, sniping or shooting at all is a poor way to assassinate someone. to ensure the target is eliminated, the CIA for example recommends explosives deployed from close range (i.e. strap a brick of C4 to them, shove a grenade into their mouth, etc., just throwing or launching a grenade in the room isn't always enough) or blunt force trauma to the head.
Interesting
omg Jacob Geller
Thank you. I remembered watching a video about this topic, but couldn't remember where. This was it.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
I don't know anything about this kind of stuff but surely it wouldn't kill him if it hit his shoulder or something, right?
At his age? And at his level of physical and mental fitness? Shock alone can kill and getting shot is pretty shocking, no matter where
Really depends, in the shoulder he's probably surviving but not in a good way for years, maybe the rest of his life. Just the wrong tools were employed for a high chance of success at that range.
shoulders have a lot of arteries, but bullets are small and there are plenty of places to be shot that won't kill you. you pretty much want to aim for the heart, lungs, and/or central nervous system to ensure the target is down.
There's a history to headshots as a cultural object that's kind of interesting. They rose to prominence when the mainstream culture's perception of the "self" shifted from the heart to the brain, and art correspondingly shifted from portraying chest wounds as instantly fatal to portraying head wounds as such. I would posit that there was a corresponding material shift as well, as weapons became more accurate and more able to kill outright rather than indirectly through infection and shock, the depictions of their effects changed in turn.
This was a bit before video games were invented.
Also COD has aim assist so it's kinda impressive he got as close as he did
Pro tip if you try to land a crit be immediately ready for them to go prone to avoid getting rekt by your 420° no scope mlg skillz and aim center mass for a guaranteed pownage.