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[–] [email protected] 71 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Corporate lobby hates the idea of state funded open source

It will take a generation or two for the people to win this one

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

arent we more than a couple generations in at this point?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Takes about 3-4 generariom before society takes action.

Most people still don't know what open source is or why they would care when they can use their windows PC to surf Facebook with chrome...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Doesn’t help that the new parliament’s composition has a higher corporate bootlicker ratio

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

These parasites are well funded and organized.

It will get worse before it gets better

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Europarliament is powerless, it can't even propose new laws

[–] [email protected] 55 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"NGI provided the seed funding for many of the leading (fediverse / activitypub) projects, such as ActivityPods, Bonfire, Castopod, Flarum, ForgeFed, Funkwhale, GNU social, Hubzilla, Indigenous, Kbin, Keyoxide, Lemmy, Mastodon, Mobilizon, Owncast, PeerTube, PixelDroid, Pixelfed, Pleroma and Xwiki. NGI also funded bridging mechanism for various communication protocols, such as XMPP, Matrix."

If you're reading this comment then you benefited from NGI funding. The full 85 page report is available here: https://op.europa.eu/en/publication-detail/-/publication/257ae66f-23c7-11ef-a195-01aa75ed71a1/language-en/format-PDF/source-324755022

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I am strongly anti-violence but sometimes I think a bit of torture wouldn't be the worst means to remind politicians who they represent.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I dont know if people will stand behind you anymore after you torture them

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

I don't need them to be standing, in fact they won't be able to. Just do as I say.

Scnr

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

sure, but what if they didn't stand behind you before torture either? I'm not really into torture in general, but maybe this poster has tried all other options already

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago

Thanks for buying into our plans, but it seems we won't actually be capable of delivering what we promised you. We will still be expecting you to deliver what we want from you, of course.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

:( Website of NGI :

And they appear to have a fresh Mastodon account hosted by the EU :

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

This is standard anti democratic behavior from neoliberals. What did you expect?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Shame!

Money spent on FOSS employs locals, and helps with technology independence.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

I guess this is the agenda of the new parliament? Does not look too bright besides Chat Control and Going Dark.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Does anyone with a greater knowledge of the mechanisms of the EU funding bodies know if I can do anything about this? For example, can I email my country's EU reprasentitve and present and argument for FOSS? Or is the funding decision here managed by a specifuc group within the EU that my representitive can have little influence on?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

I'm not sure but there is an open letter that you could sign that could have some hints https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40986638

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The Eurocomission, which has most power in the EU, is a bureaucratic unelected structure. No chance.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

EU is a total shitshow. It has been for years, but lately we really suffer from this stupid bureaucracy. Paper straws, attached bottle caps, not to mention billions they mindlessly pour into the slugfest in Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

@mihor oh oh, someone drank too much russian kool-aid

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

If by 'Russian KoolAid' you mean easily preventable inflation, internal border controls due to EU support of genocidal Tel-Aviv regime, exorbitant energy prices, and blatant censorship that even Stalin would envy, then yes, I guess I was thirsty AF...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Anyone else immediately get a migraine trying to read the first 2 paragraphs/sentences of that article?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is it because oft the author using multiple clauses and multiple layers of context in the first two paragraphs?

If yes, then I understand why. I find myself making the same mistake quite often because my first language is German, which often uses clauses (at least it's more common than in english).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Most likely. My own unfamiliarity with the subject matter plays a part too.

It wasn’t badly written… but it probably could have used a brief introduction.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yes, they're using several abbreviations, without explaining them properly, which isn't ideal. It's likely to keep the article short, which comes at the expense of people unfamiliar with the topic)l/organizations.

Another news site I regularly visit has a small information button besides abbreviations with a popup to explain a term, which also links to Wikipedia. This makes understanding articles about unfamiliar topics way easier.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I’m not mad at it :-) It was written for people who were familiar with the situation and posted in a subject matter specific forum.

24 hours later I feel like a bit of an ass. I thought about how many times I’ve picked up a technical article and wished for a bit less background… it’s kind of nice that we don’t have to talk about the whole history of OSS before getting to the news/subject.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It was struggling harder than I was ;-)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I noticed those language models don't work well for articles with dense information and complex sentence structure. Sometimes they forget the most important point.

They are useful as a TLDR but shouldn't be taken as fact, at least not yet and for the foreseeable future.

A bit off topic, but I've read a comment in another community where someone asked chatgpt something and confidently posted the answer. Problem: the answer is wrong. That's why it's so important to mark ~~AI~~ LLM generated texts (which the TLDR bots do).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Not calling ML and LLM "AI" would also help. (I went offtopic even more)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think the Internet would benefit a lot, if peope would mark their Informations with sources!

  • source my brain
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah that's right. Having to post sources rules out usage of LLMs for the most part, since most of them do a terrible job at providing them - even if the information is correct for once.