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The problem with this is how stratified and disjointed American society is. Yeah, a lot of people in the US have something to lose. It's pretty common to have a fairly normal life with access to plumbing, clean water, and a high school education.

But for people like a homeless black family in a poor area of town, society has already collapsed. They already live in a fascist police state. Not to pull out the Stalin quote, but it's hard for me to imagine what freedoms are being enjoyed by those currently in extreme poverty.

Could it get worse? Yeah and it probably will.

If your position is, "bring on the US collapse; maybe it'll ease the boot off the Palestinians' necks," all I can say is that I hope you're right and I hope you're prepared.

If your position is, "bring on the US collapse; I mean how much worse can it actually get?" you probably have no clue what you're talking about unless you've personally spent time in a war zone or lived through Katrina or something like that.

One of the things that struck me while studying the Russian revolution is just how much of an academic relationship we communists have to major periods of historical change. From our position it's way easier to imagine ourselves in the room with Lenin trying to make a tough decision on agricultural policy than it is to imagine stretching your food store through a region-wide famine and crop failure, or watching your family all catch cholera, or getting shot by the white army...

Man I should really tone down my posting or it might actually cause the American state to collapse. Thanks, that was close one

It's not something you can ever be ready for. There's not much to do ruight now except organize where you can and try to find humor amidst the horror.

there will be no revolutionary potential until the conditions worsen, and their worsening is inevitable, so

it can always get worse

it can always get better

it's never profound to point this out

"it can always get worse" is usually being used to shut people up

so on the rare occasion that it's not, don't be surprised when people don't respond to it well

At some point worsening conditions just results in the US rehashing evil shit it's already turned into an art form. Roving bands of vigilantes rounding up undesirables and committing unspeakable violence against them? What little public safety nets exist being completely shredded in favor of a little more profit for some finance vampire? Living under constant threat of global nuclear war?

That's just us replaying our greatest hits. The victims of the last rounds are mostly still around, they can tell you all about how fascist this country has been for its entire existence. Rhetoric among the people reflects the conditions they live under, not the other way around.

the rallying cry of the reformist lib. yawn.

If you're in a house that's on fire, and all the exits are locked, yes, it will get worse... But do you expect people to be excited when you say team blue is fighting hard to make sure you will be have access to buy a fire extinguisher with a 50% tax credit 2 years from now?

I mean the second poster isn’t wrong. Public schools in America are badly underfunded outside of select suburbs that lean more white. And I say select suburbs because I remember living in the US and even some of the whiter districts had iffy funding. The white and rich districts had the top public schools.

Damn, I wasn't aware we had a nag in our presence.

Yeah, be quiet you whiners, it can always get worse.

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Wow, just wow. This post has entirely changed my view point on the United States. Thank you. I can now for our supreme leader without thinking about the mutilated corpses of Palestinian children.

Still not doing the whole performative optimism thing

conversely, copers always seem to have some further pale perpetually unmet it's always impossible to analyze conditions as though they are legitimately bad because the rich parts of the country don't experience those, and somewhere else's poorest poor are poorer. do we not talk about poverty in afghanistan because some people there have nice conditions? should we ignore poverty in mexico because libya & palestine are worse? if it's ridiculous logic to apply elsewhere, there have to be limits on US exceptionalism-distortion of real analysis

Sure, the US could have the Spanish Inquisition randomly torture people, yeah I guess that would actually be much worse

One of the things about life is that it’s never so bad that it can’t get worse.

It will always get worse. They is no point in pretending things will get better doing what has already not worked.

ok so are you getting ready or...

Yep...

vote for joe biden

Merica’s getting worse because you pricks keep complaining.

I find it weird how often people here blame American on America's "awful education system".

Yes, compared to Euro Succ Dem countries our schools such, but on the global scale? Yes the way school funding is structured in America does mean that quality varies a lot by zip code but I feel like even poorer school in the US are still probably better off than most schools in the developing world, if kids in those countries even have access to school at all.