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[–] [email protected] 180 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Macron was bailed out by cooperation from the left-wing, and now he wants to play fuckwad games. How predictable. I hope they ream his ass out for trying this.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This deserves a riot. Hopefully the public sets him straight. I wish our own public would flip cars over politicians' lies and anti-citizen rulings.

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[–] [email protected] 177 points 2 months ago (4 children)

bullshit : i'm french. there is NO chaos at all. Just political entertainement as usual.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

I'm amazed that "chaos" there in France is more like "normal". I remember some riots that happened couple of years ago and one commenter said France might verge into collapsing. I thought to myself that those who think that are not aware how France works, and rioting is a tradition since the French Revolution.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (4 children)

riots may happen in france, but for what is mention in the post, there is absolutely no riot, no chaos or anything else. It's just a political event without consequence.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not even a crumb of chaos? A morsel of mischief? Perhaps a scrap of sabotage?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not so much as a shred of shenanigans.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Un peu de pagaille? Quelque chose de chienlit?

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I know fuck all about French politics, but it seems strange that he doesn't just appoint the candidate from the left. It sounds like it's a fucked up non-functional situation, so he should just let them try to do the impossible and then fail. He's probably worried that she might actually succeed and is holding out hope for some way to cobble together something as close as possible to the centrist coalition that shit the bed in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. His excuse rings a little hollow. If there would be a no confidence vote, so be it. Give the left their PM, and if they get thrown out, then move forward with your compromise candidate.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If the candidate from the largest coalition can't survive a no confidence vote then I don't see how any other candidate would.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's amazing all the credit we gave him for that snap election decision is being completely erased.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago

Well it's not like he deserved any of that credit in the first place 🤷

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago

I thought people credited Macron with the error and poor timing of the election. But credited the French voters with saving the election (against the far right and polling, quickly uniting with a practical strategy).

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Hey! It's the part where the "centrists" betray the left and cede power to the facists! Damn. You'd think someone would write a new script or something.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

He's going to make a deal with the nazis, isn't he.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Time to break out a uniquely French solution?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

The president had hoped consultations would break the political deadlock caused by the election that left the Assemblée Nationale divided into three roughly equal blocks – left, centre and far right – none of which has a majority of seats.

So, in parliamentary systems -- which, for these purposes, France is similar to -- typically this is dealt with via multiple factions making concessions to each other and forming a coalition. Is that an option?

kagis

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/jul/09/french-government-risks-no-confidence-motion-as-leaders-rule-out-coalitions

France’s aversion to coalitions means any new government risks early collapse

In France, however, political leaders from left and right have lined up to rule out a coalition government after Sunday’s snap election produced a parliament of three roughly equal blocs – none with a majority, and all with wildly differing platforms.

Well.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What a fucking shit stain...

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What a fucking trace de pneu

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

So call a second election. The people will solve the impasse. Either a majority emerges or eventually the parties, exhausted by campaigning, will learn to compromise and make a coalition. Democracy will find a way.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (12 children)

will learn to compromise and make a coalition

Lol. You're new to French politics?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

French Unity is when deGaulle has you dragged out back and shot for disagreeing.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Only in the colonies, so that was allowed!

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

The parties aren't the problem. Macron holds the presidency and appoints the PM. The largest (coalition) party is giving him a candidate AFTER compromises and he's refusing STILL because he only wants a PM from his own party, who came in second (edit: not third, my bad, they did beat National Rally. They did come in third in the first round of voting though).

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Not possible, there's a one year delay.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Chaos in France"

Just... Can these people exercise any restraint when it comes to sensationalist headlines?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Chaos in France" doesn't really mean much either. As far as France is concerned that's just a normal day.

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