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I personally would want people who I know and love while I am alive to forget me and move on with their lives after my death.

It's like I would be happier in whatever is in the after life to see the people who I cared about happy with their lives, instead of getting sad whenever they remember me or worse yet, remembering me on yearly basis after I am gone.

I genuinely find it very illogical and selfish for people to want everyone to never forget them long after they are gone, especially due to the pain that come with memories.

That is why I am curious about the reason.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They feel it's a validation that their lives mattered. If your loved ones forget you five minutes after you die, it's like you made zero impact on them. Your life meant nothing.

I don't think anyone expects survivors to sit around grieving and remembering them nonstop for years and years. That would be narcissistic in the extreme. But it's not expecting too much to hope people will think fondly of you once in a while.

I lost a friend to covid. When something reminds me of him, I take a moment to appreciate his memory. Pushing it away or distracting myself to forget him would not make me happier.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

This is how I feel about it personally.

I don’t specifically want my name to be remembered, but I hope I have a net positive in the world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Its not just validation for the deceased, but also for the people they loved and cared for.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Ego. Knowing that your name will still be referenced after you're gone means it wasn't all for nothing.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's why I'm amassing low grade copper

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Make sure to keep copies of all the complaint letters you get

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Death Is Nothing At All, By Henry Scott Holland

Death is nothing at all.

I have only slipped away to the next room.

I am I and you are you.

Whatever we were to each other,

That, we still are.

Call me by my old familiar name.

Speak to me in the easy way

which you always used.

Put no difference into your tone.

Wear no forced air of solemnity or sorrow.

Laugh as we always laughed

at the little jokes we enjoyed together.

Play, smile, think of me. Pray for me.

Let my name be ever the household word

that it always was.

Let it be spoken without effect.

Without the trace of a shadow on it.

Life means all that it ever meant.

It is the same that it ever was.

There is absolute unbroken continuity.

Why should I be out of mind

because I am out of sight?

I am but waiting for you.

For an interval.

Somewhere. Very near.

Just around the corner.

All is well.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe ask the person who said they wanted to be remembered?

Like anything else, the reasons for something are personal. It's like asking someone why they like chocolate ice cream.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What, are you kidding? It's chocolate ice cream! How does one NOT understand the appeal of chocolate ice cream???

Well, I guess if you're allergic to delicious.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I genuinely don’t like chocolate ice cream. Vanilla and strawberry are superior.

Now mint chocolate chip, I can get behind.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Because that is what emotionally healthy people do when someone they love dies. They remember that person and are aware of the positive impact they had on their lives, and grieve that the positive impacts that this person had on them and the world do not continue. Grieving is hard, but the pain does fade with time, and the positives of the memory eventually overshadow the negatives.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Because the idea of oblivion terrifies some people. What they fail to realize is that in the infinity of time, their names, deeds, and memories will be utterly obliterated and lost long, long before the stars burn out.

Personally I'm looking forward to it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

TL;DR hubris and ego, more or less

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

You should read the book Denial Of Death by Ernest Becker.

In the book Becker says that the fear of death is always present in human subconsciousness. Resulting in a drive to transcend death at least in a figurative way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Most people don't know the difference between themselves and an idea, so saving the idea is saving themselves.

narrator: it wasn't

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I want to be worth remembering. That's all. If I'm remembered, it means I've done something impactful. Hopefully it's a positive.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

If my kids are playing a video game with their kids and think *Dad would have liked this" that's as much as I want to be remembered.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure there is a reason. The instinct to continue existing is so fundamental that it doesn't need any underlying reason, I think. We fear the end of our existence. So if we are remembered after we die, then we still exist in some way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I'm not sure there is a reason

Continues to describe a very plausible reason...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

You can remember people who have passed without being said.

Once you deal with your grief looking back at old photos etc. of loved ones is a really nice activity.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Leave no trace

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

It would be sad to know that people forgot about me although I would never know.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Thing is most likely you wouldn’t be in an afterlife or be able to see anything or anyone, you would just cease to exist and you would be doing just as much experiencing and thinking as you did before you were born. So being remembered is a way of extending your existence by living in the minds of those you impacted in your life and knowing you made a difference, that it was worth you being born.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

If your name and depictions of you still remain in existence then the concept of you does as well. As long as the concept of you remains that means you can still influence the world with said influence having your "signature", so to say.

Most people like to have the ability to influence the world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

"Tell me I'm a good man."

Alternately:

"Did I make you proud?"

"Every day."

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Personally, I don't want to be remembered, except in the context of a few stories. I'm more worried about the ephemeral nature of information in general and the ability of people to manipulate our perception of the past. Imagine if you were well "remembered," but someone just made everything up. That's terrifying to me. It is better to be forgotten than misrepresented, IMO.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I think there are two different things at play there, and both have been mentioned, so all I can add is that it's not one or the other but both. (Well - that and a song)

Partly it's the common human need to feel that we matter - that our lives are in some way significant.

And partly it's the fear of death and the resulting desire to believe that we'll "live on" at least figuratively.

And the song is from Shriekback and is directly on topic - Dust and a Shadow

[–] stoy 1 points 2 months ago

The vast majority of people being remembered after their deaths were truly bad people, if I am being forgotten I will peobably have done something right

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Not as an answer to the question, but on the same note: Maybe people could be made forgotten by everyone else upon their death. Like hard-forgetting they ever existed, erasing them, just for the sake of not having to bear the burden of loss.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

To me it's like wanting any other frivolous thing. Why not? I want a whole pyramid with my name, like back in the day.