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A Japanese 10-year-old has become the youngest person authorized to prepare "fugu" pufferfish — a delicacy that can kill if its poisonous parts are not properly removed.

Fifth grader Karin Tabira passed a test this summer that means she is now certified to slice and gut the fish for consumption.

She recently used her new skills to serve a platter of paper-thin slices of fugu sashimi to the governor of southern Kumamoto region where she lives.

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[–] [email protected] 188 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Would you like some of this delicios puffer fish? It could very possibly kill you."

"No."

"What if I told you it was also super expensive?"

"NO!"

"What if I told you it was prepared by a 10-year-old?"

"NO!"

[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Sounds similar to people trying to get me into alcohol, never liked it much, but everyone always keeps pushing it as if I need to "learn" to drink it.

Fucking no. It's disgusting. I like my occasional light alcohol drink but I ain't chug down litres and piss it, and my money, away because it's "cool".

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I'm fine with some alcohol, but some people are like that specifically with beer with me.

I just don't care for it. I keep getting the "you just haven't had the right kind of beer!" line and then I try their suggested beer and I do not like it.

Some people can't accept that you just don't like the taste of something they enjoy. But it happens in weird ways. No one tells me I just haven't had the right banana yet when I tell them I don't like bananas.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Different people have different tastes, and some folks are just not going to like certain flavor profiles.

Within beer though, there is so much variety, I’d be shocked if there wasn’t at least one beer out there that you’d thoroughly enjoy. It’s just not likely worth the effort of finding that one.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Yeah I thought I didn't like beer because each year on our camping trip I'd try one but it just tasted like piss. Then one time at a work thing my supervisor ordered a black and tan so I got one to and it was pretty good. Turns out I just liked darker beer than all the light beers my friends would get at camping. Then my beer journey started. I also learned beer on tap at a brewery tastes much much better then anything bottled or canned. After getting into beer I pretty much just got into anything fermented like kombucha, ginger beer, kefir etc

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

This reminds me of when I went to a restaurant with some friends and we had a variety of beers to taste. I'm not a big drinker, and have never liked beer, but whatever, it won't kill me. So we try 5 or 6, some are better and some are worse, but there's one that's far better than the rest. I say, "Well, this one is almost worth drinking," and they all respond with something along the lines of "Yeah, this one is really good." That's when I came to the conclusion that my perception of good and bad were on point for beer, it's just that my standard for what I was going to enjoy was higher. They can keep their beers, I'll stick to tastier beverages, alcoholic or otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Never had a beer thats done a thing for me. Ciders on the other hand...

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

No one tells me I just haven't had the right banana yet when I tell them I don't like bananas.

Well, maybe not banana, but I suppose someone could make that argument about an Apple, there are so many different kinds.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Millennial here.

I read zoomers are less likely to use peer pressure to get others to drink. It's also the reason why so many non-alcoholic beers are out in the market now. Really cool.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Millenials and Zoomers are drinking less overall. It’s a good trend.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah, I never really felt pressured to drink by people my age. Occasionally I'll be hanging out with older people and they'll act like I'm lame for turning it down. That's okay, before they know it it'll all be prune juice, anyway.

[–] sleen 18 points 2 months ago

Different kinds of alcohol is just different flavours of hand sanitiser.

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[–] Vlyn 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Damn, they are getting younger and younger. Just recently a 13 year old drilled into a patient during brain surgery in Austria /s

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I know a 5 year old who shoved a crayon up his nose.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Ah the ol' crayola oblongata

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

10 year olds get to have babies in the usa

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

You know Homer?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Oh, wow. I can't imagine having knife skills that precise. I've looked into this; what you actually need to do to prepare the fish isn't actually difficult- there are only two organs that need to be removed without puncturing them.

But you still need a steady hand and incredible precision to remove those parts 100% consistently, frankly slicing the fish into 'paper thin' sheets would be 10x more difficult- just, if you fuck up a paper thin cut then it's still fine and edible. Managing to pull off that sort of presentation technique is a really good indicator that this girl is the real deal- if she can make those paper thin slices, she can remove the poisons in her sleep.

I would love to try real sushi one day, but alas. I live in the UK. Best I can do is homemade with stuff from the supermarket.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Thanks!

That's exactly why I was looking at these comments.

Sounds like it's essentially the same process you'd use for any other fish, except for the potential consequences of a mistake.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

The UK doesn't have real sushi? Like you can't even buy sushi grade fish from a local mart and try making it yourself?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'm never going to try this.

Has anyone tried this? I can't imagine the taste is much better than sushi grade yellow tail.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I've heard it's not the taste. It's a combination of thrill seeking and also even the meat has a bit of ttx apparently and microdosing gives a little tingle or buzz of sorts that is desirable.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, I've heard the same. It's a flavourless, hazardous form of conspicuous consumption. It's one of those things where if someone dies from it, it's really hard to feel sad for them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I dunno. If prepared by a properly trained chef illness or death from fugu is very very rare. It's not super high on the risk taking behavior scale. As someone that has a high risk 'appetite' I find myself drawn to things like new drugs or the challenge of exceptionally spicy foods I know I won't find conventionallly pleasurable. I get that most would call these behaviors simply stupid, but I guess I can empathesize a little for others that have a loud Id in their psyche.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I've had it. I didn't go out of my way for it--it was served to me as something special.

It doesn't taste like much. It's not bad by any means, but not very flavorful.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I always wonder how many times did we try this until we found the edible bit

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

It's mostly all edible, it's about not rupturing the glands that are toxic

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

My guess is not many. You just need to remove organs you'd likely want to remove anyway.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I bet it was a "i'm going to freak the hell out of my friends by eating this poisonous fish lol" moment

[–] tigeruppercut 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

They've discovered that farmed puffers don't have toxic organs. The poison comes from the food they naturally ingest, so farming them on a special diet makes them safe.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/new-improved-fugu-now-without-poison-81301903/

[–] filcuk 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Poison fish. Poison fish. Poison fish. Tasty fish!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

We put arbitrary age limitations on seemingly everything, from voting to watching a movie. When we have no age limits on something, stories always come up about a young kid who is capable and competent.

So why do we even have those age limits? We have adults of 30+ who are way more immature than some 12 year olds. Just seems like needless limitation on the rights of kids.

The real exception to this I suppose are things like age limits on joining the military or giving consent.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Most adults are functionally retarded and can barely drive a car. These kids are the exception. Most humans are incredibly stupid.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

like the dumb mfs that own cars like ford mustangs or dodge challengers and end up totaling their cars because the believed that they were the reincarnation of Ayrton Senna when in reality they can barely drive a shopping cart

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The reason is to protect the physically or mentally weak from the strong while also having rules that are easy to follow and to enforce, that don't require psyche exams, which depend on the examiner.

Age might not be a good metric of evaluating maturity, but it is the best and most practically useful we have. (I use "maturity" here as having reached certain physically and mental level where they can operate, think and decide independent, and the risk of being manipulated is low.)

Because age is not a good metric, that means that we have false positives and false negatives on a maturity tests based on age, which we need to balance. And I would rather have more false negatives (wrongly ascertained immaturity) than false positives (wrongly ascertained maturity).

If someone comes up with a better and still practical maturity test, that would be interesting. "Solutions" like every citizen has to do a yearly physical and mental exam in order to keep their rights as an adult, seem much to harsh and easily manipulatable. Especially around blurry lines like disabilities.

Wherever certain thing needs a maturity test or not and where that should be, I cannot say. Just if the age limit is too high, then mental decline will raise the false positives, which would be bad as well.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"I was happy when the governor said 'oishi',"

It's 'oishii', CBS. Just because English no longer cares about vowels doesn't mean Japanese doesn't. Oishi is proper name (big rock or little rock depending upon the kanji)

[–] tigeruppercut 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

After how Japan mangles names and words into katakana I can't get too worked up over languages without (formally transcibed) vowel length forget a macron or double letter in publications for non-speakers.

Besides, I don't think the h thrown into Ohtani is gonna make Dodgers fans say his name any different than without it. It would be similar to trying to get a random Japanese person to use vowels outside the five sounds they have.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

I don’t doubt the ten year olds ability to prepare the fish, only the ability to understand the weight of her actions.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Yeah no thanks.

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