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Get you a company that can do both (lemmy.world)
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[–] [email protected] 104 points 1 month ago (1 children)

US Government Employee: "Okay, awesome. So that's a solid contract for the Lunar Lander for NASA. Great doing business with you."

Northrop Grumman salesman: "Yeah, sure, happy to help us win the space race against the Soviets!"

Gov Employee: "Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go figure out who we're going to get to build a stealth bomber for the Air Force."

Grumman: "Oh, we can do that too!"

Gov Employee: "Whoa, really? Thanks, that really makes the rest of the week easier. I appreciate it! Now all I need to do is find someone to make some cute little mail delivery trucks for the USPS."

Grumman: "You're not gonna believe this..."

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just to head off any pedantry: I know this isn't how it went, but it's funnier this way.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I believe the history is Grumman made the usps trucks and then a little while after, they merged with Northrup, to make Northrup Grumman.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_LLV

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yes, hence the disclaimer. Grumman delivered the Lunar Module in 1968, Grumman delivered the LLV in 1986, Northrup delivered the B-2 Spirit in 1987, and the companies combined in 1994.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You didn't pay any attention to their comment trying to head off your pedantry. Did you?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

The pedantry is genuinely interesting and contributes to the conversation. It's not like *it's or something that's pedantic for the sake of being pedantic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I saw no pedantry, only interesting information.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's wild that they actually responded to the pedantry comment with the exact pedantry I was trying to pre-empt.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

So they make a variety of "delivery" vehicles...

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm gonna miss the old design. The new one looks like someone smashed it with a looney tunes hammer.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Looks aside, I'll bet visibility is incredible, at least from the front. And I think that at least my mail carrier will appreciate having air conditioning. We still have a lot of the old LLV's here and it was 105 and humid all summer.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago

Functionally it's amazing. Totally with you.

Being able to stand in the back, low step deck, ac/heat! Visibility. And electric for the most part. our couriers deserve it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Being able to stand up inside the vehicle is another huge benefit. And a bunch of them are going to be electric.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah, no doubt it's a significant upgrade, the old vehicle's silhouette is just really iconic to me.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (4 children)

For context, this is the current design, the Grumman LLV:

And this is the new 2024 redesign, the Oshkosh NGDV:

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

New design is goofy but I kinda love it, it looks like a cartoon. Also it just screams functionality, the driver can see so much out of that massive windshield

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can it hit 45 without flipping over the bumper?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Yes, but at 45 mph it starts playing the sound from Scooby Doo when Shaggy and Scooby start running away from the bad guy

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Old looks cheap to make, new looks cheap and safe to operate, shows, imo, a positive trend.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, the ones out there, so far, are reportedly a hit amongst mail carriers

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I'm not surprised. I drive an EV as a delivery vehicle, and it's pretty much the perfect use case for an EV. No engine that needs to be idles while you are out making deliveries, and regenerative breaking is very useful due to the constant stop and go

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The old design looks like it was cobbled together by Elon Musk in his garage.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's the exact opposite of something Musk would make. Every aspect of the old LLV was designed to be used. Every aspect designed for longevity. If the steering wheels aren't coming off of the Tesla cars, the metal cover is coming off of the Cybertruck's footpedal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I was mostly referring to the design mostly consisting of flat metal plates, something that hasn't been common in cars or even very sturdy, long-lived work vehicles, pretty much ever since the WW2 era of vehicle design (e.g. 1948 Unimog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unimog )

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

The old model was named the Long Life Vehicle (LLV) for a reason. Ugly for sure, but rock sold. Designed in an era when the main concern was to last 6 digits on the odometer, powered by the iron duke engine. Moderately efficient at the time of its design in the late 70s, but absolutely dependable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I never had a problem with the new, though admittedly goofy, design until I saw this picture. The ground clearance on that looks pretty low. Might just be photo angles tho. Anyone have any videos of these being tested out? Curious how they handle on dirt roads. I'm sure the did factor that into account, just curious is all.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is this why I never see my mailman anymore?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Maybe your radar needs an upgrade?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I guess we doin ... now meme

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I have no idea why they sent me a thermonuclear device, I ordered an Xbox controller

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The OG Xbox controller can be used as a thermonuclear device if you drop it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

how fuckin high you gotta drop it from

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

About tree fiddy leagues

A league being about tree fiddy miles.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

The controller is just an off the shelf cost saver they use to control the drone with the bomb!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

No wonder I never see, hear or detect the mail carrier on radar.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

They just copied SAAB.

They tried to give away a SAAB made anti-tank weapon with each vehicle purchase in the US in the 80s and 90s to bolster sales, but were told "that's not a responsible reaction to road rage."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Truly a post apocalyptic company

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

"awe man, I'm on the mail truck line again"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

"you get what you pay for"