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Which is it? Which do you use? Are there different associations between them?

I've always said it "comrad," but when I started to meet people in orgs, they predominantly say "comrayd" (within the same country).

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The former. The latter sounds way too Alphinaud Leveilleur and my years of being that much of a twink are behind me

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

frauddog, are you too a XIV?! There's so many of us here!!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I've stolen a pair of pants or two in my time, yes.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My impression is that com-rad is associated with the USA and com-raid is associated with Britain and Ireland. I'm not sure what the situation is for other English-speaking countries, but if I were to hazard a guess, one pronunciation over the other might be associated with the relative prestige or influence of British and American English for that person, for instance if you learned the word through American media you might pronounce it in an American way. I'm not an expert, though.

I personally say com-rad.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago

We're firmly in com-raid territory in australia, also I've had people pick fights with me after i casually called them comrade, that was a trip

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago (4 children)

It's pronounced tóngzhì, get used to saying it

however apparently this is contemporary slang for gay in some parts of China

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Do you think the slang comes from the homoerotic USSR-PRC propaganda?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

however apparently this is contemporary slang for gay in some parts of China

It is from this Chinese slang term that Toki Pona got its word for enby, "tonsi"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago
[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

its cumrag. i kiss all my homies on the lips

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Isn't that what the Welsh call their own language?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

yeah the welsh speak cum

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

it's comraid shadow legends

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Cum Raid: Swallow Goons

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

none of the antecedent words contain an 'ayd' sound, i am forced to conclude this is some ridiculous RP british problem, and everyone else is doing it normal

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

I use com-rad.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (4 children)

How do you pronounce camaraderie? I’ve never heard anyone say com-ray-dar-e” so I usually go with “com-rad”

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

I'd say "camaraderie" with the vowel in palm, and "comrade" with the vowel in trap.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Exactly my thoughts!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That's also how I remember whether to say "ih-TAL-ih-yan" vs "AYE-tal-e-yan".. there is no "AYE-tal-ee"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Just stick with /tʰʊŋ³⁵ ʈ͡ʂʐ̩⁵¹/ honestly. If you accidentally use it on an anti-communist you can just say you thought they were a fellow member of the LGBT community.

(I'm American and say comrad)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

is that a rendering of 同志 in... IPA? doesn't look like IPA to me but I have little knowledge of it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah it's the Sinological IPA I got from Wiktionary lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

TIL how IPA does tone marks with those small numbers. very cool

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

There are a few different ways IPA can represent tone. I've more commonly seen tone represented with ˩ ˨ ˧ ˦ ˥ which can form ligatures like ˦˧˥

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Well that's how Sinological IPA does it anyway

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Broke: 'comrade'

Bespoke: 'tovarisch comrade'

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

I seldom say comrade since I'm usually in public settings and have to generally avoid drawing attention.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Either, largely depending on accent.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

This country had to be british

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I call ppl "tovarshi"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

I say "camarade"; though in English I say "com-rad"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

It’s enjoyer

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

ამხანაგი

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

i'm dyslexic, i'm pronouncing things how they're written. its comrade and no amount of 'correcting' me wil ever do shit sorry ¯\_(ツ)_/¯