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Among the most significant changes with this year’s Elements releases has little to do with new features but instead concerns the ways users purchase and own the software. While prior versions of Photoshop and Premiere Elements have been lifetime licenses — the user buys the software and then owns it indefinitely — this year’s release has moved to a three-year license term.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Remember, it's morally correct to pirate every single adobe product. Same goes for every Nintendo product

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's also a major pain in the ass to do now. I forget how I did it last time, some fuck Adobe subreddit had a guide for it but it's so much more than just install and drop lolcrackorvirus.dll into the folder.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Adobe used to house all the licensing mechanisms in a single file named amtlib.dll. The people who cracked it just nulled out the function. And since it was the same for every piece of software, just repeat the null process for each one. Bam, the entire suite for free.

When Adobe switched from CS to CC subscription, it was cracked in 24 hours. Largely because they didn't change much.

Adobe then axed the crippling DLL file and baked the mechanism right into the executable. A patcher tool was released that could crack each one. The upside is you could install and keep them updated from the CC Desktop and just run the patcher each time. Sometimes you had to wait for an update to the patcher. So before you clicked "update" you had to double check to make sure it worked.

To stop the free trial abuse (which is how people installed anyway) Adobe started requiring billing information during setup before you even get to downloads.

Later on, Adobe prevented users from updating apps if there wasn't an active subscription.

The patcher eventually stopped working because it was abandoned (this around 2019 when I gave up using it because Resolve and Affinity were more affordable and met my needs.) Months later someone else picked up the patcher development. There's also pre-cracked versions you can download and install.

I've not touched Adobe since and find Resolve to be significantly more stable and at $300, much more affordable. The Affinity Photo and Designer apps are great and affordable too at $170 for the bundle.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

why cant people just give up adobe and switch to davinci and affinity

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ecosystems and collaboration. If you're already using Adobe for X and Y in your teams, it's cheaper to get a CC license; and as for collaboration Adobe files are proprietary (and tbh so are Affinity files) so it's harder to transition off of them. You can open .psd files in affinity, but wanting to export one will rasterize your text. And you can't even export a .ai file, sure you can do pdfs and that preserves vector information and layers, but that's just friction that businesses wouldn't want to deal with.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

oh that makes sense, VENDOR LOCK IN.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

FOSS projects are often worth their salt

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There has to be a meaningful number of companies where each individually is spending more on adobe licenses than it would cost them to pay a bunch of developers to get gimp to the point where it is a fully sufficient alternative. But hey, the only thing more important to capitalists than making profit seems to be, to not go for cheaper FLOSS options, rather than spending pointlessly large amounts of money on proprietary software…

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

A lot of FOSS projects have succeeded in approximately this way. I think it can only be a matter of time until this happens even in this area.

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[–] [email protected] 172 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Fuck Adobe. They are the epitome of the greedy, toxic software company.

I switched from Photoshop over to Krita last year. I've tried Gimp in the past, but just can't adjust to the UI. Krita is different too, but not to the same degree. I've been enjoying it. It's well-made and very powerful, with very good online support.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Can recommend the Affinity suite for anyone looking for some good alternatives.

Darktable is alright for LightRoom replacement as well.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Swapped to the Affinity suite a few months ago and have been loving it. DaVinci Resolve replaced Premiere. Still having trouble finding a decent After Effects replacement though. I’ve been eyeing Natron but haven’t tried it yet.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago

Have you tried https://github.com/Diolinux/PhotoGIMP for a Photoshop themed GIMP?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago

Today I went to cancel the Adobe stock trial, and during this extensive cancellation process, they tried to score me on another package for a year, and when I checked, it didn’t include the product which I was fucking canceling… Which is just insane and ridiculous!

Hey I’m canceling this product.

Oh ok. You want to give us a bunch of money for more unrelated products?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There's another free video editor called shotcut. Give it a try, works great.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

There's also free and open source alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 100 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Literally everyone hates Adobe. At this point I'm shocked there hasn't been a consortium of companies pushing for alternatives.

It's not even just about the money. So many companies rely on a workflow and business model that Adobe can change on a whim at literally any time they like. That's a level of trust I'm surprised that so many companies and governments are completely fine with.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They keep buying up anything that's an alternative. They need Monopoly sanctions.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

That's a level of trust I'm surprised that so many companies and governments are completely fine with.

Crowdstrike. 'Nuff said.

[–] [email protected] 111 points 4 days ago (2 children)

At this point, I treat Adobe like malware on my personal systems.

Enshittification seems to be accelerating.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago (7 children)

they said, linking to an LLM-generated song

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (6 children)

That's why I'm a little skeptical when buying lifetime licenses.

I love my Plex server and even pay for Plex pass, would love to buy lifetime. But what if two weeks after I buy they just decide this isn't their business model anymore?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

They cannot change the terms of a license without reserving themselves the right to do so which would be a red flag, this is in reference to future sales of the license for this software.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Genuine question: Why are Adobe clients not holding pitchforks and standing outside their offices every day for the past 2 years?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I think, because most people who are actually relying on Adobe products (e.g. making money with them) are making way more than it costs (by several orders of magnitude) so they let themselves get slowly boiled because they still make money hand over fist.

Everytime there is a price increase, the discussion becomes: do we retrain x people, costing us y per person and reducing productivity for z months, or do we just take the L and pay a flat percent increase per seat and maintain productivity. The choice is almost always the second one because it's hard to predict how prices will increase in the future and the costs of retraining your staff.

The people not making money have no resources to stand up to Adobe, so they make noise because it's all they can do. Adobe ignores them because they don't generate a significant portion of their revenue.

If you are an employee for a company using Adobe products, it's likely you don't even care and you may not even be aware of the pricing scheme your company is following.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 days ago

And then once this move has had enough to time to narrow their userbase to only the ones dumb enough to tolerate such bullshit, they'll do it again because number go up lol

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The new license comes in this really cute collar! To activate it. Simply lock the collar on the user's neck and bam! You got 3 years of free Adobe Acrobat and Elements!

Do not take the collar off. It is secured by Battle Royale Inc. it will remove the user's neck area separating the top part from the bottom part. It's a very strict but effective license option!

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I fucking hate Adobe so much. Their software has been in a nose dive for years now. I still have to use it for work at the moment, but I'm slowly seeing signs that alternatives are picking up enough adoption to finally ditch them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I also have to use it for work. I don't know if it's Adobe, or Windows 11, or a toxic combination of both, but not a single day goes by where I can just create without things randomly breaking. Illustrator stops letting me drag with the direct selection tool. Premiere switches to hotkeys as I'm typing text. InDesign...actually InDesign has been behaving.

But literally all the other Adobe apps will break AS I'M USING THEM - like, an action I've literally just done suddenly doesn't work or glitches out. A couple weeks ago Premiere and Photoshop would literally crash on open. The day before they were both fine.

I have Gimp, Inkscape, and KdenLive installed just in case.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago

Pricing seems to be the same as the previous version. They could have at least charged a little less for the much shorter licenses.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Weird, just looking at my stats for 'adobe products pirated'. The line item listed just went from 0/lifetime to ~1 every 3 years.

I wonder if this will affect their profit margin.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

YSK: you also don't own games on steam, it’s all licenses and they can all be revoked.

That is why i archive ~~pirated~~ DRM-free copies of some games i know i will come back to for Nostalgia in many years.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Note that a lot of games on steam don't have any DRM, either. It's probable that if you have large library, a lot of your installed games will run without steam, if you go and start them from their exe.

So you can likely archive at least some of your steam games by simply keeping them installed, or even squirreling away the install folder somewhere.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

GOG also lets you download the installers for your games so you can play them with or without GOG. A notable part of their service is the games do not have a GOG drm.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

and own

Are you sure?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

i miss macromedia :(

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