Obama admin fought to lower the minimum wage in Haiti. Remember this along with others the next time he tries to lecture black Americans with the "yo y'all " accent. https://www.businessinsider.com/wikileaks-haiti-minimum-wage-the-nation-2011-6?r=US&IR=T
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I don't look XYZ and/or sometimes I can pass as white so I don't know if I can post here. Can I?
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"we uh wage-suppressed some folks"
Apparently it's too much for some Hexbear crackers to allow people to be angry at libs for supporting the genocide of brown people. We need to show libs patience and to touch grass and ground ourselves while a genocide on our comrades and friends and families happens. They cannot do wrong, they can only be wronged. The Zionist project has nothing to do with Nazism. This is all just a big misunderstanding.
Some fucking people here, for real.
Also, and as a general statement, I have never called for anyone to be executed. I've only ever called for people to get time-out in a pit and self-crit together.
I got a sneaking suspicion one of them is that dude who malds at people using the word "cracker." Whatever. Hexbear always had a mayo problem. And I don't see that changing anytime soon because there's way too many white people here.
You know, for a USian leftist social media website whose target demographic are zoomers and millennials, the fact that white people are a supermajority instead of a slight minority is disgraceful. White people don't even form the majority of USian zoomers. And once you screen out the (mostly white) Christofascists and (mostly white) white nationalists, the percentage of US zoomers who are white drops even further. But over here on Hexbear dot net, the percentage of white posters is probably on par with UK zoomers who are white. Cool if this is a British site, but not so cool since it's an USian site.
Honestly, yeah, I never thought about it like that but that makes this problem generally so much fucking worse. My God, that's depressing. Haha
I don't have any idea how to remedy that. I'm just glad we have this space at least. Unlimited gratitude to @[email protected] and @[email protected]!
Lol I think I know exactly what you’re referring to. Always get annoyed when someone talks like they’re somehow superior because they think they’re the only one interacting with the outside world.
So fucking obnoxious. Sneering like the one true Communist and sounding more and more like a defensive White lib every sentence.
It's a shame that was locked so quickly, honestly. That would've exposed some cracker demons like the other struggle session exposed misogyny.
I missed it and went to your comments to see what was being talked about. I think I saw what comments you were talking about. Holy shit the pearl clutching lmao
When you talk about doing something with "No apologies for the terror," if you don't preface your statement, they all of a sudden have reasons for not having any terror. And like the typical lib, it falls on us to patiently educate whitey instead of whitey changing their view. Or at the very least, not doing genocide.
It's not my responsibility to debate and convert libs. It's their responsibility to change their positions before they get got.
100%.
It was honestly infuriating. And they were so focused on the actual act of casting a vote, which I said I personally don't give a shit about and wasn't the point. The initial comment was about USian libs' selfishness, even in the face of a literal genocide, being unforgivable. Libs can't be assed to care and, moreover, so many libs support it. There are so many fucking libs who are full, frothing members of Zionist-SS Division and think Palestinians are all terrorists beheading and SA'ing Zionist babies who deserve cleansing. Sure, there are some libs who are simply resigned to the genocide, and frankly fuck them too, but there are many who want it.
But as always we're supposed to be patient with lib bloodlust right now during a genocide because in the past at some point in time some of us were also confused, ignorant libs? What a dumbass take. I wonder how many Palestinians being genocided would agree with this nuanced analysis of patience towards those who demand their brutal death and the death of their families and children.
Purely self-serving defensiveness. Projecting and accusing others of electoral lib brainworms and then immediately admits to having had said electoral lib brainworms barely a year ago. My God. That was borderline Nazi apologia, in my humble opinion.
Rant over.
And a year is practically nothing. Person was really telling on themselves when they were all "Not everyone is born a commie."
There's liberal naivety and then there's "making up stories about beheading children so you have a reason to carry out ethnic cleansing of your neighbors." People might go through the former. You don't go through a nazi phase and then earn my trust just because you changed to what millions of people already knew.
It's like that argument "Well, back in those days slavery was acceptable, so you can't judge people," which completely ignores the fact slaves knew it was wrong. There were non-slaves who knew it was wrong and argued for its abolition. The same thing has been true for stuff like homophobia, sexism, carnism, etc.
They completely told on themselves. I don't even believe them anymore when they say they were a 'Communist for a long time'. They are still a lib in their heart. Recovering, at best.
There's liberal naivety and then there's "making up stories about beheading children so you have a reason to carry out ethnic cleansing of your neighbors." People might go through the former. You don't go through a nazi phase and then earn my trust just because you changed to what millions of people already knew.
I absolutely agree with you, exactly. I feel like they were conflating past liberal naivety like voting for Obama to get good healthcare with currently being in favour of a Nazistic genocide. Zionism is an extension of the Nazi project. I'm not going to forgive and forget with people who demanded the Holocaust and joined in on killing Jews in Europe and turning in their neighbors just because the Soviets destroyed the Nazis and now everyone has to feign innocence like they never did what they did. Anyone arguing otherwise is defending and apologizing for Nazis guilty of the Holocaust. But, suddenly now, in the present day, the situation is complex because there are a lot of supporters of the contemporary Nazi project and some people who used to support them recently changed their minds after they saw the Zio-Nazis do what they have said they would do for almost a century. No, I'm not willing to compromise and forgive Nazis just because there are a lot of them and some of them were deceived or propagandized into supporting their crimes. Stalin's biggest mistake was stopping at Berlin and we should never forget that. The entire world still needs to be de-Nazified. No forgiveness. Don't like that because it hits close to home?
It's like that argument "Well, back in those days slavery was acceptable, so you can't judge people," which completely ignores the fact slaves knew it was wrong. There were non-slaves who knew it was wrong and argued for its abolition. The same thing has been true for stuff like homophobia, sexism, carnism, etc.
Exactly. It's like they don't even realize how they are just repeating the same argument that was used throughout history by people to apologize for themselves committing these crimes. None of this shit is forgivable and there were always people who knew, especially the victims, that it was fucking wrong. I'm not going to forgive some fucking supporter of slavery because 'they were a product of their time' or some such bullshit platitude. Get right the fuck out with that shit. I am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away, but with blood.
sorry nerd, you have to be nice to the people supporting a genocide, they dont know better, being angry means you are too online /s
That shit did make me so angry I had to temporarily log out, so I guess they won.
My town gets all the weirdest expats. There’s this blond Lithuanian woman who seemingly has a fetish for buff brown men, because she’s always seen fooling around with them.
Anyway, today she was wearing a hoodie and baggy pants. Somebody asked her why she was wearing that in 21 (70F) degree weather and she responded, “because I’m a n-word” with the hard R in full English.
Is this what they mean, when they told some USian immigration workers
Be patient with {Slavic, specifically Ukrainian} migrants; they might call you the n-word
That's...uh...hmm. Maybe just drag her off to the bathroom and wash her mouth out with soap.
why does this read like a horrible fanfic
I just gave it another read and it does lol
English isn’t my first language and I’m a little self-conscious about my writing style in English. Part of me feels that it’s a little juvenile and unrefined.
Oh noo, that wasn't what I intended by my message. English is my second language too. I just found it entertaining and endearing (minus the actual content lol) but I think your writing is great
Fucking hell, common and massive Baltic L...
I think it's really sad there are still BIPOC in America and "The WEST™©®" as a whole that don't see what's happening in Palestine as nothing but a more modern and extreme version of what happened to us. To me it just shows are a real lack of historical understanding. It just bums me out that there still BIPOC who buy into idea they will get into :"The club" if they just parrot what white liberals tell them.
It just bums me out that there still BIPOC who buy into idea they will get into :"The club" if they just parrot what white liberals tell them.
One of the few true bars Michael Render ever spit, even if they make seven figures, they still what? They'll learn. One way or another, the crackers will strip them of their illusions; because the crackers can't help but lose track of their masks these days.
Exactly! EXACTLY! It's really just plain saddening that katz still buy into that after its been proven time and time again once the way they mistreat people over "there" (whereever that may be) is exactly how they will justify mistreating you.
"Well its been 400 plus years. Surely now it has mysteriously changed "
hi, i was with friends (not mine, friends of a friend) playing dnd and it was uncomfortable with the n*zi references.
i get it's typical stuff, but knowing the people are largely of german heritage and transphobic/misogynistic then having their in-game team called the 'SS' is whack.
it really was not funny and i had no clue how to even express my distaste. i stopped playing with them, they kept making n*zi references it was disturbing.
i'd wanna express my thoughts some of the time but yeah i sorta felt ashamed for some reason :/
Maybe I haven't spent enough time with s, but this seems beyond the typical stuff. Really disturbing actually, I would be freaked if I was in your position, sorry you had to go through that
I've been into tabletop wargames for over 20 years, including literal WWII games with people playing actual nazis, and even they understood nazis were evil and not something you want to imitate.
When you larp as nazis, especially in a game not centered around WWII, suggests serious Anglo brainworms.
Or they're just plain neo nazis
Ye lol
Entirely possible these other players were some of the 40k players that are object lessons as to why normies don't typically fuck with 40k long.
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but knowing the people are largely of german heritage and transphobic/misogynistic then having their in-game team called the 'SS' is whack.
That sounds like Stonetoss' friend group...
seeing some absolutely braindead chronically online discussion even on hexbear reminds me whiteness always permeates through no matter what. Even poc are not immune to it these days
seeing some absolutely braindead chronically online discussion even on hexbear reminds me whiteness always permeates through no matter what.
Another day in the western hegemone...
Even poc are not immune to it these days
I'll hold grace for them, specifically because every morning for us has to involve killing the white man in our heads as a matter of morning routine. Feet on the floor, toothbrush in mouth, kill the white man in your head, put product in your hair. Some days, we slip. Shit, some days I slip. It matters more how quick you get back on the horse.
i try my best, but i've been holding grace my whole life. i understand deprogramming is a lifelong battle and the only way to liberation is to continue to spark the fight.. but i'd be lying if i said it didn't effect me being ostracized not only by white cis-ness but even from your own supposed "communities". i would just like to not feel like i'm rowing against the tide alone constantly, as i'm sure many of us on here feel.
today is the final day of navratri!! every year i go to the mandir to do garba but this year i was sick and now i have work so i haven't been able to go, but i get to go today. im so excited
when i think about my indian-ness or hindu-ness, this is the only festival i really think of since its the only one i actively participate in where i feel like i belong. also its still hard trying to describe what garba is to white people lol
Congrats, Aen,
You finally get to connect with your heritage!
A little note
you know, it's funny, there's like 1 billion of Hindus in this world, yet they're not as vocal of their beliefs, compared to Christians or Muslims, who make a similar population...
yay!! tbh i feel like i squandered all the opportunities i was given when i was a teenager to connect with my heritage more, and now its a lot harder to do it. like i had the opportunity to learn gujarati but i mostly messed around in class and now i regret it
also
i think hinduism is less of a monolith which makes it harder to be vocal about it, i suppose. and when they are vocal, it's in india and very related to islamophobia. at least in the uk where i live, hindus are either indifferent about preaching about their religion, but when they are super religious, they channel that preachy energy towards islamophobia
tbh i feel like i squandered all the opportunities i was given when i was a teenager to connect with my heritage more, and now its a lot harder to do it. like i had the opportunity to learn gujarati but i mostly messed around in class and now i regret it
Heh, a lot of migrants like me and you do... thankfully, I've began to pick up more on my native tongue, from my parents, but as for connection to my nation, I don't feel it nor do I find it much interesting...
(hint: it's the other nation infamous for codeswitching between English and the national language)
infamous but i have no idea what it could be... philippines? that's my best guess
Yep...
it was the highlight of my year once again, never gets old! i had to relearn a little bit but once i got going it was amazing. i love dance
also i thought a video would help if you don't know what it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaVpBhZfQDg&t=360
the hurricane once again shows no body gives a shit about us, a few hundred Africans die in a flood and the most you'd get is a mention in a fast news segment, The U.S. gets hit a hurricane now suddely all international news are reporting on it
Yep, another day in the western hegemony...
If I had a nickel for every piece of cognitive dissonance I've seen
feels bad laughing at this but yeah, it sucks
thankfully we got each other
On average, Americans commit three felonies per day (mostly unknowingly). If cops want to arrest you, they will find something to arrest you over. Whites think they're perfect, law-abiding citizens, but they're not. The law is selectively un-enforced towards them.
Hell, they illegally use drugs more often than non-whites. But non-whites are arrested and convicted more often by several orders of magnitude for drug offenses.