politics

Have anti immigration people ever stopped to think >

No.

This is a great point. However, let me offer this counterpoint. Racism

That would require empathy.

They don't even hurt the economy overall. The people coming over are typically of working age, generally motivated and commit serious crimes at a rate less than half of native citizens. Texas has really good stats on this. The only stat illegal immigrants rate higher are moving violations. Possibly because they may not have licences or as much experience driving.

I've heard the arguments. It's to take our jobs and our money. Would they like to do the jobs they claim are being stolen? No. But it's great opportunity for young entrepreneurs, like lawn mowing! Are their kids going to do that? No. They'll probably try YouTuber and Twitch long before anything else.

You've got to remember...

Immigrants do pay taxes. Even the undocumented ones. They don't get the same benefit as the rest of us though. So most of the time we are taking advantage of them.

If you don't like that source there are plenty of others you can Google too.

Most of them are misinformed, if the knew what the US was really like they'd probably sail to Canada. Being the richest doesn't mean jack shit when there's nothing invested in the power classes.

You're describing the average conservative. The people who push the view that immigration is ruining the US aren't average conservatives. They're the ones who lie to conservatives to spin them into a rage in order to manipulate their vote. Those people are not themselves conservatives, but figureheads that collect a nice pretty penny from the rich folk to make sure the anger of their base never turns against the class whose fault everything actually is.

In short, as long as conservatives keep letting their talking heads tell them who to be mad at, they never will be furious at the ultra wealthy. And that's by design.

That would require them to realize how much the US has destabilized Central America over the past century.

Conservativism is not an ideology, it is a disease of the mind, a failure to see beyond your own experiences. The conservative wants to preserrve the aspects of the status quo that directly benefits themselves, and vehemently demand a chance to anything that doesn't. For as long as there have been conservatives, they have had shifting priorities to suit the in-group.

That's why they don't stop to think about how others are affected. Others are outside the in-group, and are therefore bad. Anything bad that happens to them is permitted, possibly with some rare regret, but the only priority is the self.

That's why the conservative demonizes education as elitism, expertise as arrogance. It is why the conservative looks for scapegoats and outsiders, and why they seem unable to perfeive their own hypocrisy. There is no hypocrisy for a conservative, because the value does not exist outside the self. So whatever the self wants is good when the self wants it, and anything else is bad. If the conservative wants to subjugate women and punish them for sex, they will prohibit abortions for all. If the conservative wants an abortion the very next day, they will seek it out and lament how difficult it was for them. They will not change their opinion, anymore than a ship adrift in the wind changes its heading.

A rational person might have blind spots where they don't realize their beliefs are harmful. A conservative person will see the harm and decide that it is good, because that is the path that they want and everything else is an obstacle.

Conservatives are too stupid to understand this argument.

We don’t even spend the money we have on our own citizens. It’s not about having resources, it’s about spending the resources we have on what’s important, which apparently is guns and ammo, oil, and the military industrial complex.

Cruelty is the point, it's practically a virtue. And that cruelty also drives down wages so it's a message that gets plenty of air time.

Yep, they're Good Christians who believe in the "sanctity of life".

Murderers gonna murder.

They'll go to jail for contempt if they refuse. I'm honestly surprised a preliminary injunction would require this though.

Edit: they've already filed an appeal on that order (interlocutory appeal) today https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67630985/united-states-v-abbott/

Judge pretty much says the state isn't even offering a defense so

Defendants shall, by September 15, 2023, reposition, at Defendants’ expense, and in coordination with the United States Army Corps of Engineers, all buoys, anchors, and other related materials composing the floating barrier placed by Texas in the Rio Grande in the vicinity of Eagle Pass, Texas to the bank of the Rio Grande on the Texas side of the river