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[–] [email protected] 75 points 6 days ago (2 children)

In Hitler's defense, he did kill Hitler.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, but he also killed the guy who killed Hitler.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

but he also killed the guy who killed the guy who killed Hitler

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

honestly can't fault him for it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I dunno, it took him ages; should've been higher up on his todo list.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I understand the concept of appealing to a better nature but, ma'am this is America. We still revere Henry Ford, we imported Nazi scientists because of some self imposed space race. Outside of WW2, (where we didn't even voluntary join we needed to be attacked first) our history shows were far far more likely to ignore or tacitly support fascism. Be careful asking questions you don't want the answer to Harris.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago

We still revere Henry Ford

I wonder how many Americans know about Ford's quest to reignite antisemitism in Europe by foisting "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" books at every one of his overseas car dealerships.

I wonder if we'll shove all Elon Musk's reactionary bullshit down the rabbit hole when his legacy think tank full of right wing psychos is sponsoring the next generation of History Channel and TLC episodes.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Reagan: "If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism"

The politically literate: "But, Ronny, you're a (neo)liberal!"

[–] [email protected] 37 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Sadly, yes.

I'm really hoping "It's a close race..." is code for "Harris is favored to win, but we rigged the polls to show them neck and neck so that there's still a news cycle."

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm worried cause I see the Democrats doing the "smart" thing of finding the exact counties they need to win. And aggressively pushing and trying to play to them alone.

And that doesn't seem like a smart strategy. In fact it feels like Hillary or Disney's failings where playing it safe and doing "smart" math doesn't work to do something productive and barely scrapes them by.
I don't see this being a landslide. And I'm worried their math will mean nothing in the real world.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I love how "playing it too safe" means "That wasn't safe at all"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

It's kinda like how prevent defense in football sometimes (or perhaps even often) prevents teams from winning.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

there is a 100% chance of Harris winning the popular vote. Unfortunately billions of dollars spent on like 100,000 people in 7 states will be what decides the election and there's a 1% chance of a tie which will throw it to the house of reps for some reason.

The need to reform the electoral college and ban gerrymandering has never been greater

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"The constitution is meant to be a living breathing document to be updated and amended as per the country's need, not some holy scripture that must be taken at its word." - The Founding Fathers

Conservatives: And I ignored that completely.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

“It’s a close race…” is code for

Nothing so auspicious. It's more "we never actually have a clue, because our job is to sell ads not tell you useful information".

News media had Obama in a tight race when it was a blowout. They had Hilary in a blowout when it was a nail biter. They called Florida for Al Gore early on election night. They aren't honest or useful or knowledgeable in any way that makes them a valuable source of information.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Hopefully it's that and not "we rigged the polls to give some credibility to whatever bs Trump is planning".

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Calling Trump a fascist just makes his supports love him even more.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

It also reinforces who he is to less hard core supporters which may have a positive effect over time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Americans only hate Hitler because he's a loser. If he'd won in Europe, we'd lionize him the same way we celebrate reactionaries like Churchill, Reagan, and Shinzo Abe or despots like MBS, Duterte, and Modi.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

trump literally compared himself to Victor Orban

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

The brown shirts loved Adolph.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 days ago

Yes because there's a lot of Nazis and Nazi sympathizers in America currently.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Does she really wants the answer to that or is that a joke question?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Yes. Yes they will.

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