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[–] [email protected] 202 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This should be the very last piece of journalism that any one takes seriously from the Washington Post.

Both them and the NYT have shown their asses when it comes to just being propaganda mouth-pieces.

We need to re-democratize our culture, and get away from this world of billionaire possession of our cultural expression. They didn't make it, and its not something they can own if we don't allow it. We need to stop taking outlets like WP or NYT seriously.

[–] [email protected] 125 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It's a bit weird that it's behind a pay wall

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I'm not really sure what the New York Times has to do with this. WaPo is owned by a billionaire trying to hedge his bets if Trump wins and decides to take vengeance by breaking up Amazon.

NYT is fully independent.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 month ago

Not sure what you mean with fully independent, but Wikipedia says "Though The New York Times Company is public, all voting shares are controlled by the Ochs-Sulzberger Family Trust. "

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's owned by a wealthy family, and it's reflected in what they choose to report, and more importantly what not to report.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I read the times nearly every day. Not sure what you mean by this. Can you expand? I find their reporting on trump to be pretty real. Their interview with John Kelly straight up calling trump a fascist is pretty damning. So…

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can’t say for certain what they mean, but while their Trump coverage is solid, many people take issue with the way they are covering the Israel-Palestine conflict.

On another note, while I believe the John Kelly interview should be damning, if you believe it will make any difference you are living in a fantasy world.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

While I don’t necessarily disagree with either of your points, neither of them have anything to do with what I was responding to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The second point was an aside, but the first point was the likely answer to your question. You were talking about the NYT doing a good job reporting on Trump but the person you responded to was almost certainly talking about their less honest, more propagandized reporting. I was offering the example of this that is at the forefront of everyone’s minds at the moment.

Not bickering, by the way, just clarifying.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Didn’t come across as bickering at all. I appreciate the clarification.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

They platform bad people with op ed, legitimizing the ideas

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

They don't consume the main stream media. And that's a great thing because then you can make up whatever you want about what they've said or not said in order to confirm whatever belief you have about them.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 month ago

Alexandra Petri is courageous, Jeff Bezos is a scared little shit, spread the news.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

That’s what our readers deserve and expect: that we are saying what we really think, reporting what we really see...

This is why I cancelled my subscription and switched to NYT. I need to be able to trust my news source, and I can't trust the post if all it took was a call from Bezos for them to bow and kneel.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

And to lie about their reasons for doing so to their readers.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (4 children)

This is why I cancelled my subscription and switched to NYT. I need to be able to trust my news source

Guess you're ignoring their genocide apologia and their constant pro-cop propaganda, then..

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

Oh oh, don’t forget about vocalization of anti-transgender viewpoints: https://www.poynter.org/commentary/2023/new-york-times-bias-reporting-transgender-people/

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I found the NYT's sanewashing of Trump irresponsible, so I took my WaPo subscription to The Guardian. It's a sad reflection on the US when a foreign paper has better reporting than any domestic source.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The Guardian is my next choice if NYT doesn't impress. That said, I tip The Guardian very often, so I probably send more money their way than if I had a subscription.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 month ago

As one who mostly read the comics on newspapers when they were a thing, this could be the much needed endorsement for that target audience.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"'He might forget' is not enough to hang a country on."

Its extremist views like this that are going to destroy our nation. ;p

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

'He's learned his lesson'

He's a fuxking grown ass adult that hasn't been held accountable for his actions. Fuck Susan Collins and all of his stupid ass enablers.