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I want to point out that it only passed the Senate because nobody knew what they were voting for and nobody bothered to block it. After they found out what the bill actually was a bunch of Senators came out against it, after they had already passed it.

Per: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/paulmcleod/daylight-saving-time-senate

this is a good point, but the abrupt change twice per year is harmful regardless of which ends up being the permanent time.

People say it’s for farmers, but obviously that’s nonsense. The intention was to reduce energy use, by shifting things so when people get off work they spend more time outside instead of inside using energy.

Also because the guy who came up with it wanted to spend more time catching bugs iirc.

Also if it has any effect on energy use it’s unclear which direction and it’s less than 1% either way, which is not enough to justify the increased car accidents, heart attacks, etc. that happen every time we shift the clocks.

"I forgot how dark winters are" I exclaim every year, forgetting that The Man has Fucked With The Clock

you're exactly right, it is measurable.

pedestrian deaths: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0001457503000150

deaths of despair: https://web.gc.cuny.edu/sites/default/files/2021-07/Saving-Light%2C-Losing-Lives-How-Daylight-Saving.pdf

We're about to get off of dst. You want to stay on dst and eliminate standard time.

On the other hand, it no longer serves any practical purpose whatsoever.

In a way this would be a positive. Or there's a bright side. We can, as a society, all agree to do something completely pointless and stupid. Would be cool if we funnelled that energy towards something sillier. What if we all agreed that a certain tuesday just didn't exist or something? I dunno, could be wacky, could be nice. Instead we have DST.

Also that, but in any society there will probably be broad agreement about chronology (yes I know watch time came as a result of industrial revolution and the attitude we have now is very recent and so on and so forth) so we do risk creating a socialist utopia with daylight savings just as a result of when people meet each other. If everyone around you says it's 6 pm then it's 6 pm and if there's cultural values tied to 6 pm, like "now it's evening" then it's the evening.

5 pm is too early for it to be dark

That's just changing your territory over to an adjacent time zone. Still kills the whole "daylight savings"nonsense of changing clocks.

It's the grey men from momo, stealing our time

We'll never get it back unless we raid their vault of stolen time

in theory yes, but in practice 6 pm would just become "morning time" for whoever lived where 6 pm occured in the morning. The way we think about time is in many ways a cultural construction. There's linguists that write about this, it's pretty interesting

People get confused because the names are absurd and backwards. How is it “Daylight Saving” when you move the daylight towards the evening? Thats Daylight Spending if anything. We’re putting it where we can use more of it! Daylight Saving would be shifting away from the evening.

But also I don’t particularly care if clock noon matches solar noon. I don’t want to leave work in the dark, and it would be significantly easier to stay on DST year round than to force every business and employer to shift their hours forward so I don’t leave work in the dark.

Ah fuck. Can I cop out and say I mean the concept of DST then? Obviously we'd stay on summer time.