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[–] [email protected] 294 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Since rolling back to the previous configuration will present a challenge, affected users will be faced with finding out just how effective their backup strategy is or paying for the required license and dealing with all the changes that come with Windows Server 2025.

Accidentally force your customers to have to spend money to upgrade, how convenient.

[–] [email protected] 201 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Congratulation, you are being upgraded. Please do not resist. And pay while we are at it.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Since MS forced the upgrade, you should get 2025 for free. That would probably be really easy to argue in court

[–] [email protected] 69 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ah, but did you read the article?

MS didn't force it, Heimdal auto-updated it for their customers based on the assumption that Microsoft would label the update properly instead of it being labeled as a regular security patch. Microsoft however made a mistake (on purpose or not? Who knows...) in labeling it.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Then it's still on Microsoft for pushing that update through what is essentially a patch pipeline

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

MS will be sued over this and they will lose. This is not an ambiguous case. They fucked up. It’s essentially an unconsentual/unilateral alteration to a contract, which kinda violates the principle of, you know, a contract.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Uh, if they didn't ask for it, how is Microsoft going to make them pay for it?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

Good luck arguing with Ms if you aren't a giant company

[–] [email protected] 86 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I'm truly, totally, completely shocked ... that Windows is still being used on the server side.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 days ago (4 children)

A bunch of enterprise services are Windows only. Also Active Directory is by far the best and easiest way to manage users and computers in an org filled with a bunch of end users on Windows desktops. Not to mention the metric shitload of legacy internal asp applications...

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

We run a lot of Windows servers for specialized applications that don't really have viable alternatives. It sucks, but it's the same reason we use Windows clients.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Basically AD and the workstation management that uses it. Could all be run on a VM and snapshotted because you know it's going to fuck up an update eventually. Perhaps SQL Server but that's getting harder to justify the expense of anymore.

[–] [email protected] 94 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Misleading title. It was installed by a third-party updater, Heimdall, but MS labeled a Windows 11 update wrong.

[–] [email protected] 117 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They labelled an OS version upgrade as a security update.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yet another reason to not do auto-updates in an enterprise environment for mission-critical services.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 days ago (4 children)

In an enterprise environment, you rely on a service that tracks CVEs, analyzes which ones apply to your environment, and prioritizes security critical updates.
The issue here is that one of these services installed a release upgrade because Microsoft mislabelled it as security update.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I know this has nothing to do with my home computer, but this just further affirms my decision to switch to Linux earlier this year.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Copilot just forced itself onto my personal machines again so it's just typical Windows fuckery all around.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Hate to be that guy but if you automatically patch critical infrastructure or apply patches without reading their description first, you kinda did it to yourself. There’s a very good reason not a single Linux distribution patches itself (by default) and wants you to read and understand the packages you’re updating and their potential effects on your system

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Many distros (at least Ubuntu) auto-installs security updates, and here a mislabeled "security update" was auto-installed. This is not the fault of the sysadmins.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

here a mislabeled "security update" was auto-installed.

To be fair, you would have to read all the way to the first paragraph to get this information from the article. Hard to blame people for not knowing this critical bit of information when it was buried so deep

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago

While you are generally correct, in this case the release notes labeled this as a security update and not an OS upgrade. The fault for this is Microsoft's not the sysadmin.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago (5 children)

When the OS becomes the virus

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It must have been the same fun as when back in 2012 (or 2013?) McAfee (at least I think it was them) identified /system32 as a threat and deleted it :)

[–] [email protected] 46 points 5 days ago

One of the few things that accursed software actually got right!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Meanwhile I've still got customers who are running CentOS 6.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

We have an app running on CentOS 6. The vendor of the app informed us they expect to have a new version that can run on RHEL 8 by the end of the year - 2025.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

As is tradition

[–] [email protected] 36 points 5 days ago (10 children)

Do system administrators still exist? Honest question. I was one of those years ago and layoffs, forced back to office bullshit drove me away

[–] [email protected] 64 points 5 days ago (3 children)

yes, but we spend most of our time in meetings with cloud service vendors now.
I haven't been inside the server room for a month.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago

I only go in the server room to t-pose in front of the giant air conditioner to cool off.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

I knew a guy with almost that exact resume, except he told me it was chickens. He worked in Lagos during the week and went back to his chickens in rural Nigeria on the weekend.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I think they call them devops now.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There are dozens of us (working for MSPs because in house doesn't pay as well and companies are cheap and want to outsource that cost center)!

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago (8 children)

I switched from an MSP to a unionized in-house position, doubled my salary and my days of paid time off.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You thought you were in control?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

"Labeling error"

Lol, okay.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Why do my windows upgrades never run this smoothly?

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