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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

lol welcome to the middle ages

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

If you can avoid the dark ages, you should probably consider that a win right now...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I hope at least they sack the ones who were approving drugs they knew didn’t work because of big pharma pressure. Would be a silver lining.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

those are for sure the ones sticking around

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Well after they gut the FDA im sure those people will be gone

Now all drugs from companies who donate to the RNC will automatically be approved instead

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

With immunity for any other health issues they cause. We're now living in an Oligarchy.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Somebody is counting his chickens before they've hatched.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 hours ago

The brainworms have definitely hatched though

[–] [email protected] 46 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

I wouldn't be surprised though if Trump just ignores him and appoints a drug company lobbyist instead. RFK Jr. forgot Rule #1 when dealing with Trump: get paid up front.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 hours ago

Would be hilarious considering he dropped out just to beg trumo for a spot. He's pathetic and hope you're right

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 hours ago

Awesome, we are in a situation where I am openly hoping for the corrupt commercial outcome....

[–] [email protected] 11 points 16 hours ago

Also that he demands absolute loyality but gives none.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 22 hours ago (13 children)

If you stayed home because of Gaza, this is your fault.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

60% of white men. 53% of white women.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Remember, the universe for those stats are only voters which account for less than half of the total US population.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Mostly Millennials, GenX, and Boomers as well.

Young people protesting Gaza had almost no influence on this election

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

No, all the Gen Z incel boys voted for hatred and misogyny.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

While they didn't help, I suspect their numbers were small enough to not matter in the scheme of what happened.

The answer is likely mundane. My guess is overall turnout was lower because things didn't feel as 'crisis' like as 2020. The needle for people barely aware of politics even as they vote stayed at the same place as it was in 2020: Things aren't great, kick whoever is in office out in hopes the alternative does better. Last time they came out for Biden because Trump was at the wheel. Now they show up for Trump because the president was a democrat.

This segment of the electorate is not particularly politically aware, let alone active, and likely has little to no opinion about the broader world. The relative likelihood of them turning up at all depends on how badly things are going (less likely to show up this time compared to the unprecedented mess of 2020), and to the extent they show up they just vote against whoever is in charge that day.

However, those people are generally quiet, and so we turn our focus instead to the loudest folks proclaiming a refusal to vote for Harris.

If it was close, I would agree. It wasn't even close by such a huge margin the more mundane factors I think are the only ones big enough to explain things.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

It doesn't matter. A vote that was not cast or cast for anyone other than Harris we warned them and warned them, and they didn't listen.

If I ever hear someone say "Gen Z will save us" again, I'm going to have some strong words for them. Gen Z is a bunch of knuckle-dragging Neanderthals and they'll be the death of us.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

My guess is overall turnout was lower because things didn't feel as 'crisis' like as 2020.

What an insane take...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This is largely how non voters have responded when asked as far as I've seen: "feels like things aren't broken, I can sit this out"

Its not a take its just the reality we live in.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Every person that says that is now a Nazi sympathizer.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

For the politically disengaged? It is an accurate take.

In 2020, you had massive unemployment. People personally were stuck at home with nowhere they could go. Many of them saw a loved one suffer death at the hands of a pandemic, or personally get very sick. That is a direct and visceral experience of "things are bad". They didn't need to follow any news, study any charts, read any policy, they knew that their direct subjective experience was bad.

In 2024, things for people are largely normal, but a lot of bills are high. Grading on a curve, this is much further from a personal crisis for most folks. In fact, the grocery bills eased a bit so some people might be seeing a natural 'light at the end of the tunnel'.

The biggest discused crisis factors in forums like this are only being considered by the politically engaged, and that's just not most people. Whether it should be or not...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Its definitely a media outreach problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Yez, but not in the way you're thinking. People have been radicalized by misogynists on youtube and tiktok that Russia has paid for. It's been proven for some of them, and if you think they're the only ones, you're living in a fantasy land.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Unfortunately, I think the media has blared the things people should be caring like crazy. Problems remain:

  • People only internalize their personal experience, and they only care so much about what they see on the screen.
  • To the extent they may care, they also see a counter campaign of folks claiming otherwise, and they don't really have a good way to casually know which viewpoint to take seriously.
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