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[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"I'm happy to ibtroduce to you my belt and road initiative for US citizens: Tighten your belt and hit the road, jack"

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m tired of all this malarkey about inflation back in my day we’d grab our shine box and go make a nickel

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What do houses cost these days anyways, Jack?Two nickels?!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well hell back in my day we would just load up the wagon and head west for 40 acres and a mule

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

40 acres and a mule

That hit hard given I was watching a Reconstruction documentary yesterday — the U.S. really should have followed through on that promise to formerly enslaved people

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago

This will never be finished but cost billions of dollars.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The whitehouse.gov press release says:

  • two separate corridors, the east corridor connecting India to the Arabian Gulf, and the northern corridor connecting the Arabian Gulf to Europe.

  • railway network ship-to-rail transit between India, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Israel, and Europe

  • electric cables, data cables, hydrogen pipeline along the railways

  • Participants are Saudi Arabia, the EU, India, UAE, France, Germany, Italy, and the USA

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

electric cables

hydrogen pipeline

Seems like a bad idea hoss, but what do I know?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

This benefits the US as they can make countries dependent on the pipeline and then blow it up and accuse Russia

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Centralizing all of that along the same ROW sounds... dangerous? Bad for defence?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Who said the US doesn't like to build train infrastructure?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Proudly building trains using ~~expendable~~ Chinese labor since the Transcontinental Railroad

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The one time I caught NPR on the radio it announced this. The contrast between the reporter's breathless admiration for Biden's bold leadership immediately followed by Biden muttering "It's a big deal..." had me rolling.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

I swear there must be a pull cord on his back. Just few canned phrases on repeat that could be applied anywhere. Saw “dog-faced pony soldier” made a comeback today.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

I thought it was weaksauce the way Biden had to say "It's a big deal" – that should speak for itself.

Or you should find a better way to say it: biggest infrastructure project since the Marshall Plan, will increase world GDP by 3%, something something

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Who's funding it? The EU is in crisis, the US never funds infrastructure properly, and Saudi Arabia/India are more interested in coupling with each other via BRICS+ than with anyone else.

Can't wait for the West to fund a Saudi-India trade terminal and then run out of money.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps the bet is on India clashing with China over various bs and wanting to have its own trade corridor?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How does that even help India? India is only in this project from a single shipping link - not exactly tightly coupled to this trade corridor.

Plus, the logistics of loading/unloading mean that trade is going to flow through the Suez anyway.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

How does that even help India? India is only in this project from a single shipping link - not exactly tightly coupled to this trade corridor.

Plus, the logistics of loading/unloading mean that trade is going to flow through the Suez anyway.

it's not done to help india; it's done to force india closer into the american & european sphere of influence so that india will be less able to ignore the usa or western europe demands; like the russian sanctions; and it also guarantees that both russia and china will stay as weak as possible by cutting them out of future business plans.

this whole thing is very cynically smart; i didn't know any better i would a have guess a lawyer came up with it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

They'll probably pay someone to pay someone to pay someone to pay someone to pay someone to build a bridge, then they'll give up halfway through, give 90% of the money to the board, then ask for more

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He already abandoned the blue dot bullshit?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Even if Biden made a good faith attempt at a BRI like initiative to develop other countries infrastructure, no sovereign nation in their right mind would take it. Americans cannot plan that far in advance to build their own infrastructure. 2 years after USBRI gets passed into law, the budget for it would get cut in negotiations with the new Congress. 2 years later it would get more budget cuts or get scrapped completely by a new president. Our system does not have the capability to do any sort of long term projects with any efficiency.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Anyone remember global gateway? the European plan to 'combat' china? Yet I hear absolutely nothing from it anymore, and that's europe, the place libs love to praise the amazing infrastructure. Imagine a country like America doing a BRI project lmao.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Americans announce this shit all the time. Nobody's taking it serious at all, it's all just cheap words.

Two data points for your convenience:

Obama announcing a "new silk road" in 2011 to help distribute the Afghanistan problem onto its neighbors. Nothing came out of it.

Biden announcing Build Back Better Worldwide to compete with Belt & Road or something. Ask yourself - have you heard anything from that, ever?

All the West can do is talk shit, do nothing and bomb poor peasants. When China visits, we get a hospital...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I can't find a budget for this 'India-Middle East-Europe Economic Corridor' anywhere. Tens of billions? A trillion? Seems they're not saying.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Biden this the 7th time you've announced your own Belt and Road in class!