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Summary

The House Ethics Committee has expanded access to its report on Matt Gaetz, recently nominated for attorney general by Trump.

The report details allegations of sexual abuse and drug use, including claims Gaetz paid women for sex and had relations with a minor, which he denies.

While House Speaker Mike Johnson seeks to block public release, some Republicans demand transparency due to Gaetz’s nomination.

The Justice Department previously investigated similar allegations but declined to press charges.

Senate confirmation hearings are expected to intensify scrutiny.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 hour ago

I guarantee there's something in that report we don't know. Concealing the report already implies the allegations are true. It doesn't actually save face at all. There's either more victims, or it implicates someone else.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 hours ago

and had relations with a minor, which he denies.

That's called rape, full stop.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 hours ago

All this attention is just going to help him. The guy is going to run for president now

[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Why is this an ethics probe and not a criminal investigation from law enforcement?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 25 minutes ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago)

The criminal investigation was dropped last year

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64644518

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 hours ago

Because the law doesn’t apply to the rich, and all of this is a dog and pony show

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

I think there were two different investigations. I suspect the ethics committee one has fewer hurdles to overcome in order to make it public. (Don't quote me on that—I may be mistaken)

[–] [email protected] 143 points 6 hours ago (4 children)

I feel like "resigning from your office" shouldn't be a way to keep forever sealed the results of investigations that have already happened.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 34 minutes ago

Taxpayer money was used to create that report. If they don't release it, then it's just a waste of taxpayer money.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Well I know someone who shut down over 90(?) felony charges simply by running for election. And succeeding, apparently. Apparently heads of state and president elects are all immune to the justice system.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 hours ago

I'm sure the people who were big mad that Hillary Clinton may have violated company policy but didn't break any laws will be equally outraged at this.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

"Boss, you're not allowed to report me for stealing in the workplace, because I quit"

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You can't arrest me, I'm a sovereign citizen!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

You're not a US citizen? Deported.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 48 minutes ago

This might be a silver lining to the madman's mass deportations. Sov cits might get swept up too, and can you imagine how pissed they'd be stuck in camps with brown people?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Don't give them ideas. Magats are gonna murder some minorities then renounce citizenship and not have to go to prison.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Non-citizens can still go to prison, especially if there is nowhere to deport them to.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Ex-house members are supposed to still be under the jusdiction of the law. But here we are... 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 hours ago

Leak it. Leak it. Leak it. Leak it. Leak it. LEAK IT!

[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 hours ago

Speech and debate clause.

Someone should read that on the floor

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

People need to stop asking if they're going to confirm him and start asking senators why they're voting for a pedophile. Where is the line too far? At what point does appeasing Trump become a threat to nation?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

They’ll do recess appointments, claim they didn’t vote for him, and point the finger at Trump, who will end democracy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Except, in a rare moment of spinal development, Moscow Mitch has already said there would be no recess appointments. Let's hope that holds.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

Too easy to deflect.

"Matt Gaetz is the victim of leftist lawfare. If he was a pedophile, why hasn't he been charged? Why do you want to punish people without due process?"

And then some nonsense about how persecuted white men are.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Which means it will be leaked soon.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It should, but frankly, I've given up believing that people can be trusted to rise to the occasion and do the right thing.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago

Oops, accidentally invited in some tourists... it be ashamed if someone took that report as a souvenier 🤭

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

Just park it in a box at some tacky resort in Florida. Then charge admission.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

I will be buying popcorn today!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Make it public you cowards.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

GOP senators need to remember the fable about the sinking electric boat. Surrounded by sharks

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago

I should be ashamed of the amount of time I spend thinking about this electric boat shark situation.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That's the goal, imo. Which Republican politician will accept a clearly unacceptable pick? Who will bend the knee? If you oppose Trump's pick, you're being primaried (or worst in the long term)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Tuberville, for one

This is one of Trump's humiliation rituals, this time for Senators. They'll either accept and participate in the ritual, or Trump will run them out of the party.

Part of this will be tempered by the fact that a lot of these will go through the recess appointment process. The Senate won't be able to prevent this even if they wanted to. It's up to Johnson or whoever ends up being speaker of the House.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/11/trump-cabinet-recess-appointment-senate/680697/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Given the “will of the people” with Trump having won a majority of votes, and given the statement “never interrupt your enemy when they’re making a mistake” I feel like the dems should just help nominate all of trumps picks. It’s a more crazy idea admittedly, but I think these are the interesting times we live in. Gaetz would literally be ineffective and hilariously stupid. Which would mean that every legal case wouldn’t matter over the next few years. If he picked someone (evil) competent like Barr again we’d be radically fucked. Gaetz means we have a chance of nothing happening for a while.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I disagree. I don't think accelerationism is the answer. But given how fucked everything is, I also don't have a better one...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I think that’s my line of logic though. Why not accelerate. We either speed up the collapse, or we prove that “running government like a business” gets us this mess. The dems have for too long played the game of appeasement with complaints and limits. If the people want Trump, and they’re fine with the horror that brings them give them the whole package. It’s not like as if we can say “well but brown people will suffer more” or “trans rights” when all of this is being eroded away as it stands.

My view is that this is a longer, cultural issue and sometimes putting it all out on display is a better option than just sitting idly by as things deteriorate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 43 minutes ago

I am in an accelerationist mindset myself. Unfortunately, MAGA is too gaslit to care, and 90 million don't care or pay attention enough to actually vote. How much would the country actually have to burn to pay attention? Though there feels like not a lot else to do. At least with accelerationism, you can cheer on the fire to rage. Helps with the depression.