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So many Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania faces for leopard to eat.

Hope they enjoy the lower gas prices.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 hours ago

"look I know y'all said lower prices, but I think we can do better! Higher prices, for everyone and everything!"

[–] [email protected] 57 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

America’s top oil trade groups, meanwhile, said imposing the tariffs would be a mistake - exposing a rare moment of discord between the industry and Trump.

I want this to happen so bad. Please, Trump, stick to your guns. Fuck this shit up! It's the only way the idiots in this country will learn.

What am I saying, Americans are incapable of learning. You know what, do it anyway. Fuck the bozos!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 hours ago

Artificially raise prices with tariffs for three years: “Look what impossible problems the democrats left us with!”

Take all those tariffs away in election year 2028 “We saved you! Only us! You’d better keep us in charge”

Who am I kidding, we won’t have any more elections.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Learn? They'll learn that prices go up because Biden was there and fucked things up before Trump took over, that's how their brain works.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

You could have shortened this to:

"Trump good"

And it would have the same result, they don't need that much.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 hours ago

"I Did This" stickers v2.0: Felony Boogaloo

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 hours ago

Get your Trump "I did that" stickers ready

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago

that cuntrag works for Russia, ffs.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

There is one caveat to the tariffs not working.

They were fantastically effective against Canada when the US lumber lobby illegally attacked Canadian processed lumber.

The proceeds of the tariffs were funnelled back into the US companies that paid the import tariff, so the US did not suffer from the massive illegal tariffs applied, and the tariffs were not applied against the raw logs that they did want from Canada.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No matter how you got your lumber, the US companies still won.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

And Stephen Harper/Pierre Poilievre won. They capitulated to the US and their base never called them on it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

What was the illegal part?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

Illegal as determined by all but one international trade tribunal, because it was claimed to be dumping, but the US had no proof, and Canada had proof to the contrary.

Also it was flagrantly against NAFTA.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What's the running bet? Gas almost 5 bucks a gallon? That would be awesome.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

25% across the board on raw inputs would bring current $70 WTI barrels to $87.5, and we'll pretty solidly see a price floor of $4/gal from our current nation average around 3.20

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That's being extremely charitable. This gives them an excuse to raise prices, and I would be shocked if they didn't throw another 5 or 10% on top in the name of profits.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

That's why I called it a price floor accounting for solely the change in imported crude oil. Multiple inputs for gasoline (equipment, naptha, various hydrocarbon mixers, etc) also are imported and exported depending on market availability and will all cumulatively add to the price at the pump, which companies will absolutely add a profit kickback on top.

Markets are fucking weird though, they dont always react how you expect and those tariffs won't apply to the ~60% or so of our overall oil demand that can be covered with domestic sources (at least until that production begins to drop mid 2025), so we'll see. Wild fucking times ahead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

OK. I know this sounds ridiculous, but...what if this is all a secret agenda to prepare us for climate change? Make it too expensive to use gas or drive or buy stuff or buy food.

They slowly ween us off of our dependence on...everything, while making us think it was our idea. (Cause climate change doesn't exist) We would have to go back to living with nothing, poor, and growing our own food. Everyone that can't keep up is given a free meal and work...in jail.

I know, I know. I was just pretending there was a bit of some sort of humanity in this train wreck.