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A 35,000-year-old carved turtle sculpture, discovered deep in Manot Cave, Israel, may represent the earliest evidence of religious behavior in the Levant.

Found in a secluded chamber possibly used for rituals, the dolomite boulder was intentionally placed and shaped with flint tools, suggesting its use as a totem or spiritual figure.

Turtles hold symbolic significance in global mythologies, often representing longevity and strength.

The discovery highlights the ritual practices of prehistoric humans and adds to Manot Cave's significance, already known for evidence of Neanderthal-human interbreeding.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago

~~Simpsons~~ Futurama did it. "Is the Space Pope reptilian?"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

Behold, Dog.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Heresy is not native to the world; it is but a contrivance. All things can be conjoined.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

See the turtle of enormous girth! On his shell he holds the earth. His thought is slow but always kind; He holds us all within his mind. On his back all vows are made; He sees the truth but may not said. He loves the land and loves the sea, And even loves a child like me

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Literally came here to post this. Glad to find another Dark Tower fan

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Here is Great A'Tuin, the world turtle. Its meteor-pocked shell dwarfing continents, flippers paddling the interstellar void with the slowness and inevitability a glacier. Swimming through space, its city sized eyes fixed on a distant point forever unknown.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

The turtle moves!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Glaciers these days don't have the inevitability they used to, what with all the melting. Although that's here on Roundworld.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Makes sense, the whole world is carried around on four elephants balanced on one.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, but that's no excuse for you to stop and read articles about it when there's packages due to be delivered in Ankh-Morpork.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Manot Cave, Occupied Palestine

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

It really is turtles all the way down!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Isn't "it was probably a part of their religion" what archeologists always say when they don't know what it was used for?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure your statement is probably religious or ritualistic.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I’m not sure

I’m pretty sure

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Jokes are funnier when we explain them.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lots of things were worshiped before Abrahamic religions came around.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah why is this article framing things as if Anu wasn't being crafty in sumerian mythology before Yahweh even showed up.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

Here another source with with zero paywall/registration demands. It also goes into much greater depth.

https://thedebrief.org/35000-years-ago-ancient-humans-entered-a-deep-cavern-to-worship-this-enigmatic-reptilian-god/

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

The Turtle moves

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When will archeologists just admit that sometimes we don't know the purpose of things, and say so. Maybe somebody just liked carving turtles, surely not every fucking thing ever crafted in antiquity was religious.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Might I suggest Motel of the Mysteries? It's about a future amateur archeologist excavating a modern day motel room and absolutely being 100% correct about everything he sees.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

that would make a sweet hipster sleuth hat