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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 hours ago

I know that while pregnant, the digestion slows down, to try to wring more nutrition from what you eat. I also know that I eat about the same as my ex and my husband and both managed to get fat. Also I drop weight when stressed and maintain a normal BMI when not so stressed, but others I know gain when stressed.

It all is very interesting to me, but so strange that it's broken for so many people, and most all in the direction of overweight.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 hours ago

Might explain why I can barely gain weight, once had a camp week where me and a friend had the exact same food intake and exercise but he gained 2kg while I lost 3kg.

Sofar doctors have thought I just had a fast metabolism but seems like there could be more at play.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

That's pretty interesting. This could be the basis of a new weight-loss drug that works by limiting calorie absorption rather than regulating hunger cues.

I'm going to be mildly annoyed if the fat acceptance latches on to this as yet another study validating their belief that they can't lose weight.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I actually went and skimmed the study, this is a very good article I would say in terms of lack of sensationalizing. That is exactly the main takeaway; perhaps we can get food (fat specifically) to ‘pass through’ us without being absorbed by the body. A fascinating possibility, if perhaps wasteful.

I'm going to be mildly annoyed if the fat acceptance latches on to this as yet another study validating their belief that they can't lose weight.

On the very first page of the study:

The predominant increase in fat and calorie-dense food consumption worldwide has contributed substantially to the ongoing pandemic of obesity and metabolic disorders

Essentially what they’ve discovered is that they can interrupt a process that occurs normally in everyone, whenever there are fats in your intestine. The headline alone gives the impression of possibly being related to “set-point” theory, in which thinner people’s brains are just tuned differently. So yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see this start popping up in the spaces despite not supporting the stance at all

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

These drugs already exist. But they have a bunch of side effects.

Rebound effects from thinking you can eat more because of the drugs and fat stool are the most obvious ones.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 52 minutes ago

They already exist? I've never heard of them.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

Limiting oil absorption in the intestines sounds like a recipe for greasy diarrhea like Olestra caused.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

It is. Ask anyone with pancreatic insufficiency.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 hours ago

I was gonna say, we already tried this.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago

Ooh, diarrhea chips!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago

Just ask anyone with gallbladder problems....

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

their belief that they can’t lose weight.

For a lot of people it's a poverty and lack of healthcare thing...

Even just annual checkups are a huge help because weight is being tracked and someone gets early and continuous warnings their health is being impacted.

They have as much control as someone trying to lift themselves up by their bootstraps.

If they can't escape poverty and gain access to healthcare... They're less likely to maintain a healthy weight.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

That's valid. I was thinking more about the nuisances on Tik Tok who peddle straight-up health disinformation.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, that's bullshit.

Poverty isn't exactly helping, but there are more than enough people with enough resources and excessive body weight.

In the US, ¾ of the population is overweight, are you suggesting ¾ of the population is poor?

I used to be fat. It's not a monetary issue. In fact, I lost weight when I moved out and had very little money.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

One person says losing weight is possible because they did it once. Another person says they cannot lose weight because they've been trying for years and it's not happening. Which one is true? Must be the one that I'm most closely aligned with!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

One person ignoring the statistics offered by another to roll in the manure of their own smugness.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

For a lot of people

What about that phrase made you interpret it as "everyone"?

In fact, I lost weight when I moved out and had very little money

This makes it sound like your young and still had the metabolism of a teenager... Losing that is what makes most people gain weight. While some people can be overweight with it, it's still literally the easiest time in your life to lose weight.

It would have been much harder if you were fully grown.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

From my own experience I'm approaching 40 and I can estimate my weight based off the calories I've consumed and how much I've worked out since the last time I weighed myself within a couple pounds. It's not exactly in line with any of those estimator apps but it is fairly consistent I assume this is because I have a slower metabolism. Pretty much everyone I know who struggles to lose weight makes terrible choices even when they're trying. You can account that to cravings or impulse control or whatever but everyone that stuck to an appropriate plan has succeeded. It's a matter of figuring out how your body works and sticking to a plan but it is not easy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

For you, yeah.

For most people even, sure.

But not everyone, there's an absolute shit ton of natural human variation on top of conditions/diseases that effect that.

Like, some people react to a normal diet by their body drastically cutting energy expenditure to try and maintain fat reserves.

Billions of years of evolution says carrying around as much fat as possible is the optimal choice, and different people have different traits to maintain those energy reserves which used to be the most important part of physical fitness.

Like, of any possible addiction, an addiction to a high calorie diet should make the most sense to people.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

That's where the part about understanding how your body works comes into it. It's certainly harder for some people than others but your body cannot maintain fat without the building blocks to do so and you can restrict these between diet and exercise.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago

This explains so much about my guts