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The blue wall is 235-ish EV due to 2020 census changes. DeSantis needs to win Arizona, Georgia and Pennsylvania or he has no chance.

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[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They've been busy disenfranchising voters, gerrymandering, removing polling stations, and rigging the system in literally any way they can.
They not only have a chance, but an advantage. We almost took the Senate and House last cycle but despite record voter turnout, a HUGE number of people still stayed home.
Thinking for a second that the Left has 2024 in the bag is essentially handing the election to the Right.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Exactly. We all saw how "Hillary has this locked up, there's no way Trump wins" worked out in 2016. Even if the Democrats are leading by a landslide in every poll leading up to election day, we should still act as though it's a 50-50 race with every vote potentially tipping it one way or the other.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plus the GOP has a lot of people on social media talking about how terrible both sides are and how they’ll just stay home, which is squarely aimed at depressing Democratic turnout.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Yea both sides are not the same. Republicans hurts women, LGBTQ community, minorities, the poor, the middle-class, children, workers and non Christians.

Vote and stop voting for Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are a lot of very stupid angry white people.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (12 children)

and latinos. and a minority of blacks and asians. That forms a plurality.

crazy conservative people are not defined by race.

lots of immigrants voted for Trump because the funny thing about immigrants is that they HATE new/future immigrants.

a lot liberal smart white people need to get their heads out of their asses about the political reality and stop making stupid assumptions about other groups.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Getting smart, liberal, white people to pull their heads out of their asses and come down from their egos is just about as impossible as getting dumb, conservative, rednecks from not voting against their interests.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let's be clear that crazy conservatives are overwhelmingly white. While there are people of color in that group, they represent small portions of their communities.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I think you'd be surprised how large a portion of the Latino community is crazy conservative.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (47 children)

The republicans will cheat as usual so ya.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

They do and don’t DARE let anyone tell you different. They want us on the left thinking they’re done, that they have no chance. But in reality if we don’t get out and vote in a big way there will be a massive red wave instead and we’ll all be standing around wondering what happened.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

DeSantis? I'm pretty sure trump will be the nominee. And yes they have a chance. 2016 showed there's no such thing as a blue wall

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah, I'd like to see the basis for the claims that a) the Democratic party has 235 electoral votes more or less in the bag, b) that's due to the 2020 census change, but OP needs to find a source for their claim that the Democratic party committed some kind of fraud in Arizona Georgia and Pennsylvania in the 2020 election first, so we might be waiting a while on that

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DeSantis needs to win…

In what possible universe will DeSantis be the Republican candidate over Trump? DeSantis has record high disapproval numbers. Every time he speaks, people like him less. His whole platform is hurting gays and blacks. Plus, they could use his whiny, nasally voice in Gitmo as a form of torture.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

So that's what he did at Gitmo

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They definitely have a chance. Georgia and Arizona have surely done some things to make it harder to vote. For instance, if I remember correctly, there were measures to pair down early voting days, weekend availability, and times. They already made it so people can’t provide food and drink to people waiting in impossibly long lines. Requiring photo IDs is a proven way that affects more minority/poor voters which lean left in rural areas. There are many proven ways to “ensure proper” (suppress) voting.

Aside from all that, the shift from true policy to culture war bullshit has seemed to be very affective amongst the right leaning base. There’s a reason it’s happening everywhere. It’s not just politics, it’s God’s war for a lot of people.

I do believe some of the unpopular decisions coming down from the Supreme Court along with measures to ensure trans people don’t exist in public (they’ll come for the entire LGBTQ+ community at some point) in various states will most assuredly get the left out to vote for fear of what might happen in a republican led government.

There is also perception that younger voters coming of age are left leaning, but is yet to be seen how many will actually vote. They definitely have a chance, whether you think that is a good thing or a bad thing. People need to be active in knowing the rules where they live and have a plan in advance on how/when they plan to vote.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

On top of that, Georgia only BARELY went for Biden. I'd be surprised if it goes blue again.

The only reason it sent two Dem Senators to Washington is because the GOP picks were just so far beyond unpalatable. Ossoff legitimately performs well in a debate/ad (what with his extensive media experience) vs Perdue who was too scared to even debate him. Warnock does a good job staying quiet and appearing reasonable vs Kelly "more conservative than Atilla the Hun, I actually bought my way into an official appointment and can't even remember who did me that corrupt favor" Loeffler. Perdue and Loeffler both were actively schisming their own party (with Trump v Kemp stuff). They did real damage to the GAGOP. Then they followed it up with Herschell Walker, who was just a big dumb mean abusive idiot. But that damage has basically been healed through Kemp's landslide win over Abrams.

Kemp's GOP takes whatever they want wherever they want in the state. A few anomalous elections have some progressives convinced that Georgia has changed for good. That fight is only just beginning -- talk to me when idiots like MTG and Buddy Carter aren't in the statehouse anymore. All the GAGOP has to do to get full control back over all major offices in their state is do basic skeleton-checking of closets and make sure no Qult v GOP infighting happens before the elections.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I don't currently see any reason to believe anything has substantively changed from 2020. So Republicans probably have about a 30 percent chance.

Which is scary stupid high to be honest.

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