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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 years ago (2 children)

I want a duel between the guy who wrote this and the guy who wrote about the Soviet Union being good in-universe

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 children)

Once again commenting to point out that cyberpunk's 'USSR' is an EU-style capital cartel that formed after the soviet union.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 years ago (1 children)

but if you read the entry they talked about socialized medicine still being there and that’s what they praised

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 years ago (3 children)

I read it. The UK has the NHS that doesn't mean they're still not a neoliberal shithole.

That lore entry was designed to be absolutely devoured by left twitter but the actual lore is lib shit. Especially in the context of the genre, it's thoroughly reactionary.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 years ago

Critical support for the fictional future-set USSR.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 years ago (1 children)

honestly it sounds like everyone has a bone to pick and are looking for any reason to hate on it.

in order to get that context you mentioned about the USSR you have to be as crazy invested as we are. the average person will read this equate trauma team to our current premium model and be like damn at least they have healthcare in X soc dem country IRL. Its a dystopian grim world fucked by capitalism and its made clear that the problem is capitalism and corporations. Just because there isn’t the USSR we wish or a socialist alternative doesn’t automatically make it reactionary? Most of the entries I read are horrific not praising of global capitalist dystopia.

I don’t get the insistence to tear everything down instead of ride on the coat tails they set up for us. Just take the parts that are useful as metaphors and analogies and ditch the other stuff. I dont see how ripping everything into oblivion is beneficial to anyone.

I know it seems like Im defending everything about the game like those twitter weirdos but i genuinely don’t understand the hate. I love the tabletop lore as gruesome as it is and I am really seeing how its been implemented fairly faithfully

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 years ago (2 children)

Maybe I just didn't play far enough in the story, but I got a distinct liberal bothsides vibe with 'unrestricted capitalism bad', but leftists are terrorists.

Just a hunch, but I'm guessing there's no deus ex twist at the end where the terrorists are false flags.

Too bad I won't find out, I was enjoying it until the le epic keanu moment has soured me on AAA games entirely.

Also their ussr ain't even socdem. It's a neoliberal trade cartel exactly like the eu is today.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 years ago

I keep hearing that "leftists are terrorists" shit while playing and I keep thinking "Uhhh... Yeah duh. If you're not a terrorist in this city there is seriously something wrong with you."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 years ago

from what I understand the government has a strong propaganda apparatus and isn’t trust worthy a good example is how they exaggerate the dangerousness of nomads as blood thirsty murderers (and dont talk about how most of them rebuilt the cities in america and are highly educated or loyal etc.) and don’t talk about the fact the previous year 30% the population of the city dropped apparently biggest in 21st century. Idk it seems like the “terrorist” angle was obvious to me that its a label put on people the government doesn’t like but sure i guess thats fair if someone is uninitiated could definitely see that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago

There's no way the game is adding computer logs for the benefit of Left Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago

:sicko-yes:

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago (1 children)

I wonder if it was intentional, I get what the joke is (expensive sports car being driven fast gets in tons of accidents). It's just out of place, especially with plenty of anti-capitalist imagery throughout the rest of the game. Then again there's still misspellings and placeholder text all over the fucking place, so some fash chud might have just slipped this in and no one noticed.

There was already a post on the subreddit of this with the title "Based". Fuck this game and it's shitty fanbase. Steal watchdogs instead, or just play an old GTA

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 years ago (1 children)

(expensive sports car

hip hop style car

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 years ago

Well fuck it. Fuck this game. Fuck CDPR.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

Borderlands but in a city and with more bugs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 years ago

But with less engaging gun play

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 years ago (1 children)

I pirated this farce of an unfinished trashcan. I hate it and can't stop playing, even though I don't enjoy it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

The le epic keanu moment got me to put it down. I had low expectations and it was worse than that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago (1 children)

ive been playing it because a friend bought it and has library sharing with me

the keanu thing is even worse than i thought. i thought he'd be a one-off character who does his thing, dies, is le epic gamer wholesome 100 or whatever and then he fucks off.

spoilerthe entire story is literally about him now. i have no idea if the rest of the game is gonna be like this but he has invaded my mind and physically abuses me in my bedroom at night. im not even joking. that's what the game's story is at the point im at now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago)

Lol yep that's exactly where I quit. Was whining about it in the megathread last night and this morning

Playing the original deus ex now instead

spoilerThe dialogue is abysmal, he's a terrible antihero and they had his nonsensical anti-capitalist terrorist character come from a grunge band in a fucking cyberPUNK game. Noted anti-capitalist genre grunge rock, in 2023.

Also that 10 minutes of john wick sim in the interlude is some of the worst gameplay I've ever experienced in any video game I've ever played.

My take is the designers watched the press F to pay respects scene in cod and asked themselves how they could do something that banal but stretch it into an hour of gameplay.

Btw the rest of the story will be about him. The narrative arc feels pretty much lifted straight from a deus ex game and that's how they usually flow.