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"Muh Soviet in a supermarket" story in 2023? My comment was also about McDonald's in the USSR, so they're feeling super exceptionalist over fast food slop.

Link You can't see this through Hexbear because they were banned for racism, war crime apologism and ableism chefs-kiss

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Meanwhile on Sunday I went to my local grocery store and they had no carts. They said they removed carts because people kept stealing by filling them up and walking out the door. I wandered around a few minutes and wasn't able to find much on my list because they were out of what I needed. And then I left without getting anything and ate out instead.

Sounds like capitalism grocery store isn't so good after all

[–] [email protected] 57 points 11 months ago

Critical support for the capitalist grocery store for letting people have free food 🫑

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Communist theory is thousand page tomes. Liberal theory is a series of unverifiable anecdotes.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 11 months ago

Excuse me but Harry Potter is not an anecdote.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

There is actually a pretty sizeable corpus of liberal philosophy and theory, but it's not really meant for the average non-bourgeois lib, especially since those types of guys are generally pretty uncurious and operate mostly on vibes (and propaganda)

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Go on then, dismiss me with your hexbear memes and be gone.

So pouty

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago

New tagline just dropped

[–] [email protected] 63 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Real choice is going into the cereal aisle in a grocery store and seeing eighteen different brands of HFCS all owned by the same company.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So many times when I go to the grocery store I end up thinking of the Calvin and Hobbes comic where Calvin's dad loses his shit over peanut butter

[–] [email protected] 63 points 11 months ago (2 children)

context for the Supermarket

The great American supermarket lie

author of "Supermarket USA: Food and Power in the Cold War Farms Race"

So while middle-class consumers enjoyed a bounty of cheap and convenient food, small farmers, farmworkers, low-income consumers and supermarket employees suffered to make it all possible. Instead of embodying the supposedly inherent superiority of capitalism, the supermarket demonstrated how it produced winners and losers.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago

WaPo published this????

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago

As if liberals will bother reading anything about subjects they’re self-proclaimed experts in

[–] [email protected] 61 points 11 months ago

Commies say the dumbest shit

Okay guy who named themself after a Nazi warplane

[–] [email protected] 58 points 11 months ago

Okay now do uninsured person from a former Soviet state trying to get health care

[–] [email protected] 57 points 11 months ago

Always funny when someone thinks American Exceptionalism means America is exceptionally great

[–] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago

She was probably crying at the price

[–] [email protected] 54 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

USSR: Supermarket items are a little basic, the interiors aren’t too ritzy, etc. but everyone is well fed and there wasn’t a horrifying system of exploitation that was needed to put food on the shelves. This is literally 1984.

β€˜Murica: one thousand flavors of sliced white bread brought to you by millions of suffering workers, plus they painted the interior green so it’s basically a luxury hotel. Behold, freedom and democracy!

[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 months ago

I grew up in a family of colonial enforcers

I can't imagine why someone would include this information and expect anyone would take them seriously

[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My favorite is when the non-bear link will have several times the comments but they're all trash.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm glad storm.front pre-emptively final resortedly defederated from us, because their comments are always by far the worst.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Reminder that a lot of the food sitting on the shelves in pretty much any western grocery store is not even going to get sold but will just end up in a landfill.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

That person hates communism so much holy shit. They're definitely clinging to "communism bad" to justify some fucked up shit in their life.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Stories that totally happened for $500, Alex

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And that Soviet's name was Albert Einstein

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago

And then the Navy Seals came out and clapped and a bald eagle flew through the store as the national anthem came on the speakers

[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago (3 children)

In the unlikely chance this story is true then the reality is that yeah, someone coming from the Eastern bloc might initially be overwhelmed to tears by the illusion of choice provided by western supermarkets. Thats all thats going on though. Just being overwhelmed by the flashiness of it. That doesnt prove its a good thing or that capitalism is better.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (2 children)

We just had this discussion as well with the 'bananas under socialism' discourse.

You get choice because others don't.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago

Capitalism is wonderful! Look at all these cheap bananas for sale in the temperate zone! It's like magic with absolutely no externalized consequences!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago

The GDR imported some food items from Vietnam and other fraternity socialist countries. Those items were often not so well stocked in the FRG. You can ask around in urban centers after gentrification today would they rather have bananas only rarely but a flat that is theirs or bananas but no flat?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There was also a ton of propaganda spread to Eastern Bloc countries by the US and its allies, and there were obviously people who believed everything was better in the West. Parenti mentions this in Blackshirts and Reds as one of the biggest problems for AES countries.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago

I always love how these are the same people who will scream how "anecdotal claims aren't evidence!"

[–] [email protected] 42 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Someone posted a bunch of pictures from the Soviet Union a while back. Their grocery stores looked just like grocery stores anywhere, except the Soviets apparently didn't give a fuck about facing (lining goods up to the front of the shelf) (they weren't wrong).

[–] [email protected] 29 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I remember my first job was in a CVS and I would spend 4 hours a day fronting and facing. I remember thinking that having hundreds of thousands of people wasting half their week facing was a social crime and that this time could have been better spent playing video games.

Despite not being 16 anymore, I stand by my analysis.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (3 children)

this is such classic cold war copium

ppl are still making tiktoks trying to grift with it, e.g. here's an alleged gusano going into an american walmart for the first time and being overwhelmed because "there are no eggs in cuba"

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPR7D3kxq/

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago

He was overwhelmed because he remembered Castro took away his grandpa's egg monopoly and that's why, to this day, there are no eggs in Cuba.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

Has anyone noticed a huge uptick in libs saying the phrase "historical revisionism" in the last couple years? What drove this? Ukraine?

EDIT: Even google trends sees it

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's libs getting exposed to actual history for a change when mainstream narrations are getting a bit too cognitive dissonant, and they are violently refusing to acknowledge it instead of just ignoring like previously.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago

someone who had been there for a while

"I've never seen so much food in my life"

So this lady who had been there for a while had... never been to a supermarket? But was showing a new lady the supermarket?

This shit isn't even believable if taken at face value

[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I bet American supermarkets were better for the elites than soviet markets. That's kind of the point.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I bet American supermarkets were better for the elites than soviet markets. That's kind of the point.

Friends of mine did regularly break out in tears in Western supermarkets. Mostly cause we didn't have enough money to buy what we needed. I however only cried seldomly!

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago

and then SHE BURST OUT CRYING and EVERYONE CLAPPED

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago

Stoned rant, coming through.

This is all nonsense, of course, but one thing stuck in my craw here. The weird idea that diplomatic staff were somehow sad to be there or unhappy with their conditions. This was a cushy position that people wanted. I don't know that capitalism supermarket is such a great draw to give that up. Sure, I'll be happy to leave my easy job to be just another Eastern European immigrant. Maybe make a side hustle as (very) minor celebrity dissident, if I manage to drawn enough attention. (yeonmi-park

Actually, is there a list somewhere of famous "dissidents"? I'd love to see some data what their demographics are like.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A fucking shitjustworks poster arguing against this poster's shit? Wild.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Did you consider that Burgerland has dozens of varieties of high fructose corn syrup treats on the shelves, under varying brands owned by over one, maybe over two, umbrella megacorporations? smuglord

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

brought to tears by the sight of chunky and creamy peanut butter on the same shelf.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

I remember when I broke down crying and shitting myself when the first supermarket opened in my city when I was 12. I was not able to cope with that so much that I remained bedridden for a year.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

because they were banned for racism, war crime apologism and ableism

every time

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago

Yeah i remember this guy from his unhinged posts on lemmy. I don't think i ever seen a post by him i didn't downvoted or reported.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

They've been clinging to this meme since the Boris Yeltsin story. I know a lot of people who immigrated from poverty-stricken nations and the supermarkets aren't the thing that they're having emotional reactions to. It's the relative safety they feel compared to their home countries. Being able to have an abundance of food is nice, but it's even nicer to take a walk without worrying that a street gang or cartel member will fuck you up for looking at them the wrong way.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

UMMM I WAS A MILITARY BRAT AND I HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE BEING A BOURGEOIS FAILSON SO I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT nerd

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